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2011 Jun 17 "Don't Call Me Frog Man" -- Sanlitun Artist in His Own Words

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What man in his 70s would go to Sanlitun Bar Street every night and only go home after 1am? That could only be Xiao Bao, who has been crafting frogs from palm leaves and cheerfully selling them in Sanlitun for the past decade and a half. We couldn’t get him to sit down for a chat at night, since that’s when he makes a living, so we caught up with him on a bright afternoon.

You’re known as the Frog Man, but you don’t just make frogs. What else do you make?
Look, here’s a grasshopper, a dragonfly. Dragons, phoenixes, turtles, cranes, chickens – I can make them all.

How do you feel about toads?
Toads are frogs, frogs are toads. They are the same animal – the ones in the water are frogs, the ones walking on land are toads.

Do you eat frogs? How about dragonflies?
Frogs … I’ve never eaten that thing. People from the south eat them. Dragonflies? I’ve never seen people eating that.

Do you mind being called the Frog Man? Is there another name you’d prefer?

What? Frog Man? I’ve never heard anybody calling me that – that’s impolite. They call me “old artist” or “craftsman.” I actually have an artist certification from the China Federation of Literary and Art Circles.

Please imitate the sound of a frog.

Sound of a frog? I’ve never done that. Ehm … eng-ah, eng-ah…

Have you ever witnessed any bar fights?

Yeah, loads. The youngsters fight a lot. Foreigners fight foreigners, Chinese fight Chinese, Chinese fight foreigners. There were lots of fights a few years ago – now it’s much better.

What would you do if another Frog Man appeared on your turf?

About five or six years ago, another guy came to sell crafts too, but he left after two nights. He couldn’t sell much.

After the interview, the “old artist” stood up, shook my hand and arranged his crafts tidily. Before he walked away, he said: “I will try to sell one or two now, and then dinner will be sorted.”

Photos: Michelle Dai

Re: Sanlitun's Frog Man is an Old Artist at Heart

The Old artist. Asbolute hero.

HHS Center Beijing

Re: Sanlitun's Frog Man is an Old Artist at Heart

This is a terrible interview. These are your questions? Please, just quit. Stop. Change jobs.

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I love Xiao Bao; I have a lot of respect for his craft and the kind man that he is.

But note to the interviewer: this is the worst interview I ever read. Please stop interviewing people for our sake.

For an actual interview with Xiao Bao, go here: http://beijing.globaltimes.cn/people/2011-04/647619.html

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Xiao Bao is a very familiar face for all the Sanlitun Lovers in Beijing.
I love his craft, and find this interview quite condescending!! I agree with whyny - the interview from Beijing Globaltimes was much more interesting.

Carole, Beijing

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I completely agree with Carole64, Soju, whyny

Seems like thebeijinger needed an article to fill up a page and came up with this ridiculous idea of interviewing this old man.

The global times interview had an apt headline for the article " A million kuai smile" and you guys come up with the "Frog Man???"

you actually asked him to imitate a frog?!

Terrible! Leave the poor guy alone.

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smj wrote:
I completely agree with Carole64, Soju, whyny

Seems like thebeijinger needed an article to fill up a page and came up with this ridiculous idea of interviewing this old man.

The global times interview had an apt headline for the article " A million kuai smile" and you guys come up with the "Frog Man???"

you want to talk about filling a page -- the Global Times's piece is fricking 1,000+ words long.

I'm not sure the news of the death of Osama Bin Laden got that length.

I dare anyone to claim they didn't stop reading after the first paragraph (if they bothered to read it at all)

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I like the the interview, because Iam too lazy to read long articles.Thank you

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Absolutely dire article - Is the interviewer 4 years old? if so, then that was very good! But I don't think that's the case. Why didn't you go all the way and ask him to jump up and down like a frog and try to catch a fly with his tongue?

I read the Global times article, and I did get passed the first article because it was well written, engaging and actually had some interesting content in it. Isn't that what an article is meant to be like?

Oops, obviously not, my mistake - sorry admin.

I don't like it when people insult or flame on sites about articles when it is unjust. But come on, this is not worthy of being published.

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Agree - felt this was way off the mark when read it in the magazine. A bit of mild fun-poking is OK, but here it is relentless and not balanced with any questions that might gain a bit of insight into or empathy for this guy (who people obviously have a soft spot for, judging from the comments). Ends up making the interviewer seem like a boorish, insensitive person, which I assume they're not.

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It's interesting that this terrible article has motivated so many users of this site to post something for the very first time, some of whom have been users for almost two years without a peep ... we seem to have struck a nerve

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And the award for the stupidest interview of all time goes to .........

Creator of Oneki Art - www.svrart.com

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He reminds me of Jimny Cricket, adorable little fellows both!

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Why is the admin so defensive about this glaringly disrespectful interview? It's like a surly teenager drunkenly tried to rewrite the GT article. Yes, you "touched a nerve" but it's because you bullied an old man! Not for some hard hitting journalism.

I don't know why I'm always surprised about the lack of authenticity or integrity of Beijinger pieces. It's interviews like this that give actual Lao Beijingers the right to assume that foreigners are uneducated idiots here for a freewheelin' good time. Please resume your Miss Laowai or "best places to eat paella" coverage as you seem to be good at that at the least.

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I completely agree with the comments about such a terrible interview.
This man has such an interesting history and story - he is known and respected in the community and honestly, I don't know anyone who calls him the "Frog Man".
The interviewer should be ashamed of herself for showing such disrespect.
All we learnt here was her inexperience, lack of local knowledge and ignorance.
Admin: get a real journalist to interview him. Length is irrelevant. Quality should be the focus - and yes, why so defensive?

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Xiao Bao would be thrilled to know that there are so many people that love him. Thanks for your constructive criticism but I think you'd be happy to know that the old man has a sense of humor and he really enjoyed the interview, so much so that he gave me lots of free frogs.. Michelle Dai

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serrot wrote:
It's interviews like this that give actual Lao Beijingers the right to assume that foreigners are uneducated idiots here for a freewheelin' good time.

This would be hard for Mr Frog to conclude from the interview itself as it was done by a Chinese person, not a foreigner.

serrot wrote:
Why is the admin so defensive about this glaringly disrespectful interview?.

I didn't find the article to be disrespectful and apologies, I don't mean to sound defensive. It's probably because I've read so many profiles of this guy over the past decade that a fresh, somewhat irreverent take on his story appeals to me.

And at the risk of sounding disrespectful to this streetside saint, I've had this guy poke his wares in my face a few too many times. It was charming the first 10 times but after a while it becomes hard to not look at him as just another beggar

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A street side beggar?
Do you know anything about this man's story and personal struggle?
So so rude Admin. You should be ashamed. Seriously.

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beijingbased wrote:
A street side beggar?
Do you know anything about this man's story and personal struggle?
So so rude Admin. You should be ashamed. Seriously.

i'm sure yashow sock touts, "lady bar" street hustlers, Jenny Lou ceramics cart vendors, orphan flower sellers and the "look at my stump" handicapped have much more struggles. I feel bad for them all in a way, but it doesn't mean I like to be hassled repeatedly to buy something from them or give them my change.

This guy's an entrepreneur at heart and deserves respect for that. He's got himself a good gig that earns him more than the average taxi driver or restaurant fuwuyuan.

But please, he's been shoving that shit in my face every time I visit Sanlitun for a decade. Oh, how it grows old.

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Admin, no need to be overly defensive - I didn't read whatever GT wrote because I don't care, but this indeed is a shitty interview.

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admin wrote:

But please, he's been shoving that shit in my face every time I visit Sanlitun for a decade. Oh, how it grows old.

The man was a headmaster and educator who made it through the cultural revolution.
He came to Beijing after he had retired with his wife who was dying and needed urgent medical treatment. He started selling little handmade items to meet her medical bills.
She died and he keeps making the little items as it keeps him going and he enjoys being with people.
He does it everyday, rain, hail, snow and heat.

Admin: You really are out of line. You owe him and your readers a massive apology.

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You know what, I think we're directing our sympathy towards the wrong person. Admin can't have a moment of respite in Sanlitun without having to be reminded of the beggars, "stumps" (seriously?), and filth that surround him while he's sipping his cold beer or shopping for his import groceries and knock off goods. How dare anyone hassle him when he has such pressing matters at hand? If only we foreigners could live in a bubble away from all the riff raff! We'd never have to use our brains or hearts for anything!

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What the heck, Admin? You've gone from being defensive to offensive in three short posts. Stay off the Haterade, dude: you're doing your employers a serious disfavor

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It's interesting that this terrible article has motivated so many users of this site to post something for the very first time, some of whom have been users for almost two years without a peep ... we seem to have struck a nerve

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You've published something that sucks so badly it's inspired people to comment for the first time... and you wish to draw attention to this fact? Interesting strategy. I like it. I shall now interview you.

Hello Admin. Can you bark like a dog? Can you dance? Can you do other things that don't translate to a written medium? OK cool thanks. Next question um...hmmm. Should've thought of something on the cab ride over maybe um erm...yeah I'm a good writer er herrr um...ever see any fights?

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