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Foreigner on Motorbike Who Hit Lady to be Deported
The expat motorbiker who ran into a pedestrian and became the latest poster boy for bad expat behavior is to be deported, along with his father, according to reports.
The latest in the bizarre tale that began when original reports claimed the expat was the victim of an extortion scheme is that in investigating his paperwork it was discovered he did not have a license for his bike, nor proper working papers.
The investigation also netted his father. The two are reportedly once part-owners of two well-known Sanlitun eateries that we'll leave unnamed pending confirmation.
With rumors swirling of another crackdown on foreigners, it's a good idea for all of you to brush up on your adherence to Chinese law, here are some tips to ensure you're nice and legal when riding on the roads and working in the city:
1. If you don't have a driver's license, stop driving and get one
2. If your vehicle is unregistered, stop driving and get one
3. If you are working illegally, go on strike until your employer gives you the proper paperwork.
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New comments are displayed first.Why ,you think foreigners shall come to a different bloody interpretation after watching the video already mentioned in the comments?have you bothered to see it ?
Ps:call an old lady a c**t(even if she is an opportunist )in my country and people will flay your skin right there. At least the General population is scared of cops here..not in my part of the world.
This story's really old, dude. Couldn't you think of any decent ways to troll some of the newer threads?
Seems like a few people are still interested in the story, so what's the harm eh?
You were the first person to comment on it for months.
Kind of ironic that you took a shot at me in the forums for trying to wind people up when here you are, doing exactly the same thing on this story.
I had one experience with the local cops. Apart from the fact that they sounded angry, it was excellent. They found someone who spoke English, checked my permit and left. Key is to have a proper visa if you are working here and not call old, even if alleged conniving old ladies, a c**t. Do that in my country and people will flay you right there.
Also, this ain't the west. If you do want to talk to her, learn some Chinese. While at it, watch the bloody video which has already posted. And do get off of your high horse
He was on the far side of the street and turned right across the road, in front of the cars that are just starting to move forward. He was in the wrong, he was driving illigally. There are no signs to turn right from that side of the street, the other side yes but not the side he was on. You're grabbing at straws now.
I didn't say she had broken ankles, I said that no one knows whether she was hurt except her and her doctor. Anyone that argues that she wouldn't be hurt after being hit that hard by a moped moving that fast is just being silly.
I also saw the video and no way he knocked her that far. She's just an oppuftunist. And funny enough I was in a taxi that ecact spot and his old man was TRYING to get hit so he could extort money. These thing happen often in China. The old woman fell and tried to blame her fall on little boys, she got her claws into them. It's just shameful.
I'm willing to bet she never would apply for a visa. Yes she was crossing on a red but he was crossing on a red to, at high speed, on a moped. If he had hit the car which he very barely missed, he definitely wouldn't have been going anywhere and he definitely would have been paying out some cash and probably would have been investigated to.
What would everyone be saying if he had hit a child? What if it was you and not her? If she had just started to cross the road from the other side?He was driving very dangerously, watch the video again and say he wasn't.
I saw three girls around 12-15 years of age flying around on a moped by Dongzhimen in september, no helmets, no care for anyone around them, they barely missed me. foreigners seem to have a fragrant disregard for any laws, fall into the atitude of "when in Rome" and then get upset when something goes wrong.
He broke the law, it took a Chinese woman to get hit before he stopped, even if she was " Scamming him". He knocked her at least 5 feet if not more, how do you know she wasn't hurt? You don't think she might have been battered and bruised? No dead leg inflicted? My gran stepped off a curb and snapped her ankle.
He was here with out the paper work, didn't have a liscence for his ped, and was involved in a traffic incident. He should be going home.
And someone should have slapped the stupid woman who kept pushing her hands off of the bike.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that womans behaviour.
The foreigner although not a bad guy was driving like a maniac. He's lucky he hit her and not that car he cut across! She was doing what most of us are guilty of doing, walking across the street just before its a green light, bad practise but common. He was doing the same kind of thing, trying to steal across the road before it went green. He hit her, not the other way around. If I was her i would be clinging to that bike to, as I know it's common practice for people panicking to try to flee the scene.
I was passenger to a hit and run here in China before, green light, turning left, driver didn't see the guy walking straight towards us, clipped him, he started to limp half way to the driver side window, driver booked it. Shitty move, the driver was worried he'd take her for every penny. She should learn to look around.
This guy wasn't looking, he was in an obvious rush.
Bottom line though is don't break the law, if you are breaking it and get caught, man up and deal with it.
There are problems all over the world in every country and there is always someone shouting it's not fair.
Yes! A man who can actually see the seriousness of this situation. He was deported, so was his father. My students told me she is all over their we chat as The Dragon Lady" they all knew it was a scam, as injuried people are not able to start a small riot while climbing on the bike, proving she has no injuries. This goes through the embassy people, and for those having a laugh, if you have a foreign penis, you could be next in line for more "Game of Dragon Lady Thrones". She would have been arrested in the west for:
deliberately blocking intersection
making false accusations
attempting to steal bike ( jumping on a bike you don't own is called stealing in the West)
iattempting to incite a riot
fraud (2 month to ten years USA)
in the foreign court go opinion, every one of we foreign women have this woman's face burned in our memory. Can't wait to meet her and have a truthful discussion with no men, no police. Just a few educated foreign women to give her instructions and basic emergency English, including the definition of the word fraud. Ten years in the west. Enjoy your duck Dragon Woman, you won't get another opportunity now that you are the most famous dragon woman in Beijing! Enjoy!
But what's with "the investigation." I got pulled over, no motorcycle license, over the limit. They took me back to the precinct house, confiscated my license for six months, but actually let me drive my motorocycle away because I was so clearly not drunk and they were very nice about the whole thing. But at no time was there an investigation of what I'm doing here or questions asked as to my employment.
Ah. Well. That does make more sense than the illegal driving thing leading to deportation. When I went back and read the article more closely, I saw the reference to the working papers buried in there. I think it was the headline and then comments by other readers that made me assume it was directly linked to the incident with the lady, when I guess that was only the spark that fired off this whole messy chain of events.
He got deported because it made the news--and it first made the news by making the Chinese woman look bad. Now that it's clearly the foreigner's fault, "action must be taken" and "we must pay attention to the laws". This is all about "face".
that's not really the case
the punishment was meted out exactly to the letter of the law
From what I understand, he hit the lady, undisputed. There's no fine/punishment for that other than paying the hospital bills.
However he was driving without a drivers' license
And apparently on an unregistered vehicle
and during the investigation it was found that he was working without a work permit
it's the working without a permit that carries the deportation charge
This guy could be getting investigated by a private dick or two during his two weeks in prison
Two weeks in the big house for his dad too, thta's going to test parental love to the limit!
20k fine for their employers too, would be interesting to know what they were up to and who they were working for.
Hmm... I commented on another article sometime ago about the recent downturn in TBJ's quality of writing (meaning writing style AND proofreading), and I was taken to task by "standards".
Standards, where are you? Who, if not you, will tell these posters to just stop reading TBJ if they're so bothered by the errors?
Or...
Perhaps TBJ could get a proofreader?
I find it very curious that this unlucky man has been deported. I have numerous friends who've been caught driving above the legal limit of .02 (but well below the American/European limit of .08), or driving an unregistered motorbike with no license. None of them were deported or faced deportation proceedings. Perhaps he was deported because of the illegal employment? That's fair enough, I imagine it would get you deported in most countries. But why did the police investigate? Because it had become a cause celbre? Because he wouldn't pay off the woman? I hope there is follow up, I'm very interested in this story.
(By the way, I don't give a rat's ass if there is a typo in my comment.)
You can edit my comments... but you still have the name of the restaurant tagged in the post.
Good spot. Maybe your not cut out to run a magazine, but you might get in the CIA. Or you could be a private dick
Private dick. Ha! I get it. He is calling that guy a dick. The temerity!
This all boils down to him swearing.
what he should've done is immediately pay her, apollogize and this wouldn't be an incident. Even if she used this as an opportunity to get some free check ups and compensation, it doesn't matter because he broke the rules and hit her.
This should be more common, foreigners should think the law doesn't apply to them.
As quoted in the original blog post:
1. If you don't have a driver's license, stop driving and get one
2. If your vehicle is unregistered, stop driving and get one
Wiser words were never spoken.
Remember, this guy was just going about his morning business, riding his scooter, when all hell broke loose for him, and now his father. If he'd had a driving license & been on a legal scooter (and kept the curse words out of it), his insurance would have covered the measly 1,800 rmb. Almost certainly, nobody would've been any wiser about his improper visa.
I'm sure he thought "nah, it'll never happen to me." He probably also bragged "I've been riding for 6 years without being legal and nothing has happened." Perhaps, until now.
By the way, this situation is not uncommon, at all, re illegal motorcycles. It was just this particular case that gained lots of publicity, because it was initially portrayed as an attempt at a "scam."
Hee... Admin, great that all of your emploees got online to defend the great and all powerful Beijinger. Thanks for your input Steven and Paul.
The article isn't all that shocking and not really a worry since I am legal and my paperwork is in order. This type of hype about visas happens once a year, everyone gets their panties in a knot and then it all goes away till the next congress or whatever.
Also, the restaurants name is still tagged in your article.
You are mistaken. What "your" is incorrect in the article?
It was in this sentence:
here are some tips to ensure you're nice and legal when riding on the roads and working in the city:
Fixed now.
Now can we stop picking on typos and get to the heart of this story -- which is this guy's dad was deported as well as a result of the kid's behavior
first i've heard of that happening