The best way to change RMB to dollars/euro/pounds in Beijing
I get paid in RMB and I want to convert my money into pounds sterling for my return to the UK. As RMB is a non-covertable currency, I want to know how I can buy pounds/dollars/euro in Beijing without paying a huge fee for buying China's husbanded foreign exchange.




eileen
Re: The best way to change RMB to dollars/euro/pounds in Beijing
As I helped my foreign colleague to convert RMB to US dollars last week. We did it in a nearby Bank. I'm chinese, I was asked to fill the form ,with the reason of trip to HK or whatever, the limitation is under 10,000 US dollars, I need bring my chines ID card to show them , then the guy in the bank will pass me US dollars later. It's quite easy.
asahi
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what do you mean 'later'?
mh
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try digging up old posts on this topic. it's been rehashed many times. there are several ways, such as doing it officially in a bank (when you leave china at the end of job, or not), saving your Yuan in a chinese bank and use their visa/master creditcards to spend the money in USD outside china, or use the blackmarket.
okyjace
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Hi. I'm interested in finding out an efficient way to exchange RMB into USD too. Could you please let me know the date and what exchange rate you were quoted when selling RMB and buying USD.
I am trying to work out how this compares to the spot rate as quoted by www.oanda.com
I wonder if there is any method where the margin is around 1%.
Guest
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can't help you on the rate, but the best way to change money is at the Main Branch of the Bank of China on the 2nd ring road east - 2nd floor, where on the left you have a counter for foreign currencies.
If you ask there, they will give you a leaflet in english about the documents you need. But you have to have a working contract.
All in all, it was amazingly easy there but I don't remember the rate anymore.
CNlady
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Are you sure that the ID card and some forms are all we need to get US dollars? Can you give more details? thanks!
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okyjace
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Recently returned from a business trip to HK. I've found the most efficient money changers (i.e. best rate) are in HK, near the Holiday Inn on the Kowloon side. There's a host of money changers at Chungking Mansions and you can negotiate a good rate. Just carry cash to HK and withdraw using your ATM card too (max HKD 4,500 each day).
coco-nuts
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okyjace: did you take RMB cash with you to Hong Kong and have it exchanged to another currency like Australian dollar or US dollar?
coco-nuts
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Went to Bank of China Main Branch and they said it is impossible for foreigners even though the sign on the window says "foreign exchange" !!!
Does anyone have details on how a loawai can get RMB exchanged into another currency and sent back to my bank in the home country? I am here officially on work and have work contracts, permits. It is legitemate but all the banks tell me no, including Citibank and HSBC. Thank you for your help.
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ObnoxiousGweilo
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Thanks for throwing that in, Drew. How it bears even a vague relevance to the topic of this thread, I'm not entirely sure.
So, what's your cut?
mh
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take a look at this.
http://www.thatsbj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327&postdays=0&postorder=as...
toballoyola
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To make the long story short, just bring along a local with you. Everything's gonna be alright. That's what we do monthly after payday. We bring one of our HR/Admin folks from the company to change the RMBs to USDs so we can Western Union them over to Manila.
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charleyquant
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Hi to confirm.
Foreigners are allowed to change up to 500$ in one transaction but need tax certificate and passport.
Chinese can change up to 5,000$ a year with no penalties, so i get a colleague to go to the bank with me use their ID card and get cash.
Also can change 500$ at the Bank of China desk at the airport near gate 8 before customs/check in only need to show your passport and get US $
HOWEVER and this is pretty serious, they gave me 4 fake 100$ bills despite me checking through them fairly thoroughly!
I was absolutely furious when I arrived in Oz and Travelex Forex desk called the police and wanted me to surrender my currency because it was FAKE. Thankfully had some sympathetic policmen who concluded that i wasn't a money launderer nor a counterfeit currency producer - so gave me the cash back. It's now under investigation at BOC as I kicked up a serious stink given that I went through the Legal channels to change cash and they as the national bank should bloody check bills properly.
However left me somewhat skint in Oz since still can't get a credit card that allows me to draw on my RMB salary!
Phew rant over!
mh
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you sure it is $5000 that a chinese can exchange instead of $50,000? regualtion has changed since Feb 1.
fake money sucks. i have never gotten one from the bank. a cab driver shanghai'ed me once.
snagglepus
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If anyone wants to change RMB to British pounds, I can help. My Chinese girlfriend works for an international organization based in London, and she is currently setting up their office here, as they currently do not have a presence in China. Until all the paperwork to register the organization is completed, they are paying her in British pounds, which is transferred from London to her bank account here.
However, she is nearing the limit for withdrawing foreign currency for this year, so would like to find someone who needs pounds to enable the exchange. She speaks excellent English, so communication should be no problem. As for the exchange rate, she is not looking to make money on this, so it would be whatever the going rate is at the time of the transaction. If you are interested, call me at: 1368-323-3923 and I'll make arrangements for you to get in touch with her.
The Equalizer
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The annual limitation amount (USD 50,000) is for the person without salary supporting documents.
If you have salary supporting documents...then....
The SAFE allows the foreigners to convert their salary from RMB to USD/EUR within the amount of their salary. So the supporting documents are:
1. Copy of labor contract (company chop)
2. Copy of salary slip (company chop)
3. Tax slip (original copy)
4. Working permission (original copy)
5. Passport
P.S: Once the fund has converted to other currency, the currency should be transferred out immediately with whole amount
If the person is dead, and their children can also get this by providing:
1. The passport of the children
2. Certificate of death
3. Written notarized inheritance or testamentary by court
4. All the documents mentioned above (labor contract, salary slip, tax slip, working permission, passport)
This means if you have worked here for ten years lets say, and each year you earned 2 million rmb, then theoretically if and when you leave China, you could convert the rmb into whatever currency and take back 20 million rmb (10 yrs x 2 million)worth of foreign currency. BUT you will need to transfer it via the bank and immediately.
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Starlighter
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Someone posted above about the black market. Anyone know how you go about changing money when you have more than the limit and no supporting documents? Thanks!
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cfc_umn
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now Wellsfargo has opened a global remittance service that you can link your US Wellsfargo account to the Agriculture bank of China. The service called ExpressSent with daily limit of USD 1000.00
A $12 fee will be charged for wiring thru ExpressSent program. You can send $ or RMB between the two banks via such wiring service. You can call US Wellsfargo for account linkage to set it up remotely if you already have a Wells account.
gdbill
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You have to convert the money pretty much within the year that you earned it, but otherwise you are totally correct.
Without work contract and other documentation, one is pretty much at the mercy of the $500 day with passport only trick.
Best thing is to find a Chinese friend to help.
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gdbill
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1. More than one Chinese friend.
2. Take the RMB to Hong Kong and do it there.
"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???
poacher
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Possible with any bank? I have my salary account at Bank of China
gdbill
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Not every branch of Bankof China is authorized to conduct foreign currency transactions so you are safer if you stick with the larger branches in your area.
In theory you can also exchange currency at ICBC and several other banks, but, again, not every branch. At banks other than Bank of China you are more likely to encounter problems.
Also, you need to pretty much conduct the operation each year since Bank of China will not let you hold off for a few years and then do it all in one transaction.
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ilikeithot
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Most branches can do simple foreign currency transactions - $500 per day - but for anything above that you will probably be referred to the large Chaoyangmen branch of Bank of China.
It does not matter that Bank of China is your salary account - other banks can do the exchange as well if you have all the proper paperwork as listed above.
I have used 3 year old tax receipts and not had a problem because of it in BOC - though that is not to dispute the advice of gdbill.
You may consider opening an account with HSBC - they need exactly the same paperwork as the other banks, but they do the job quicker and without any attitude.
underlined
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just go to the bank with your passport. it's very easy to do it within 5-10 mins.
Make it EASY.
gdbill
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I think it's a matter of "your mileage may vary" on currency exchange. Some have obviously been able to use old tax receipts to buy $, but on the other hand I have seen instances where they refuse stating that they need to be a year old or less.
There are quite a few other banks that can perform currency exchange operations, but they generally haven't the knowledge / experience as staff in Bank of China so they may not know WTF they are doing. Still, sometimes that can work to your advantage.
Another factor is what you will do with the $ once you have them. If you want US$ cash, then any bank that works is ok. If you are going to remit the US$ abroad via bank wire or a cashier's check, the job becomes complicated because of the difference in the two types of US$ you can get with a currency exchange.
There are US$ "hui" [汇] and also US$ "chao" [钞]. "Chao" means basically US$ banknotes in hand and "hui" means "virtual" US$ available for remittance abroad. You must have "hui" to send a bank wire or purchase a cashier's check. If you only have "chao" in your hand or in your account, you must convert it to "hui" and there is a conversion fee from 1% to 3%. Basically to convert you need to sell the "chao" at the bank's buy rate and then convert the resulting RMB to "hui" at the bank's sell rate.
So, if you are going to send the money overseas, best to conduct the currency exchange at the same bank you will use to send it.
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gdbill
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Maybe on your planet.
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Max Renn
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I recently went to the foreign exchange counter at Beijing Airport and exchanged a load of RMB for Yen. I didn't show them any ID or anything like that.
gdbill
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Yes, at the airport it is much easier. However, there are limits on how much you can exchange and the exchange rate is worse than at a normal bank.
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