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Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

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I am coming to Beijing soon with a job offer, however I am going to be going through the process of getting the visa myself (assuming I can do it mostly myself, if there are parts the employer must do, then I'll get them to do that). I was just wondering if anyone on this forum has done it themselves as opposed to it being done for them by their employer or an agency/service. From what I've gathered from another website, the process and requirements are as follows. My question to everyone is whether or not this is correct, how long it takes realistically, and if there are any steps that have been omitted or put in that are no longer required. Also in anyone's experience how difficult was this? Was it just a question of filling out forms and going from one place to the next? Or did they make you have to jump through hoops to get the visa?

Step 1:
Temporary Residence Permit
· Passport
· Fee: RMB 100

Step 2:
Health Certificate
· Passport
· A copy of your passport
· 2 passport photos
· Fee: RMB 420

Step3:
Work License from the Labor Bureau of Foreign Employment
· The foreign Work Application Form with company stamp
· A copy of the business license
· Resume
· Qualifications Proof (a copy of personal highest degree, Skill certificate)
· Passport and a copy of your passport
· Fee: RMB 210

Step 4:
Temporary Z Visa from the Division of Exit & Entry Administration Dept. of Public Security of Beijing.
· Health Certificate
· Temporary residence permit
· Work License
· A copy of the business license
· 2 passport photos
· Application Form with company stamp
· Passport
· Fees depend on your nationality

Step 5:
Work Permit (Red Book) from my employer via an application to the Beijing Labor Bureau.
· Work registration form
· A copy of the Health Certificate
· A copy of the work contract
· 2 Passport photos
· Passport and Temporary Z Visa
· Fee: RMB 120 per year

Step 6:
Employment Visa (Z) from the Beijing Labor Bureau.
· Temporary residence registration
· Work permit
· Health certificate
· passport photos
· A copy of the business license
· Passport and a copy of passport
· Application Form with company stamp
· Visa and papers supporting their purposes of residence
· Fee depends on the nationalities

Step 7:
Residence Permit (Green Book) from the Division of Exit & Entry Administration Dept. of Public Security of Beijng.
· Temporary residence registration
· Work permit
· Health certificate
· 2 passport photos
· A copy of the business license
· Passport and a copy of passport
· Application Form with company stamp
· Fee: RMB 200


Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

jaemaeselian wrote:
My question to everyone is whether or not this is correct, how long it takes realistically, and if there are any steps that have been omitted or put in that are no longer required. Also in anyone's experience how difficult was this? Was it just a question of filling out forms and going from one place to the next? Or did they make you have to jump through hoops to get the visa?

It seems your sources didn't give you the correct information. First of all, there are generally two methods for obtaining the end result you desire. You can arrive in China with your ordinary "L" tourist visa and then go through the process of obtaining your work-related legalities or you can arrive directly on a "Z" work visa.

If your company is not handling this process for you, I would be wary as it is likely to be either a small school (English teachers) or a very small company that, in most cases, is not even legally allowed to hire expat staff. No matter what you do, you'll never get the necessary documentation / authorizations to work legally. Another possibility is that the company does not meet the conditions required to allow in-country conversion of an "L" visa into a "Z" visa and you will be forced to collect a variety of documents and must then go out of China to re-apply for the necessary "Z" work visa.

Unless you are a gambler, the best route is to have the company provide you with the necessary documentation so that you may obtain a "Z" visa from the Chinese consulate in your country of departure prior to coming to China.

If you arrive in China on a "Z" visa, the process to obtain your residence permit is quite simple and can take about a week. If you arrive on an "L" visa, your process is something like this:

1. Health Certificate
· Passport
· A copy of your passport
· 2 passport photos
· Original and copy of your company's current business license

2. Work Permit (Red Book) from the Labor Bureau
· The foreign Work Application Form with company stamp
· A copy of the business license & original
· Resume
· Work contract
· Qualifications Proof (a copy of personal highest degree, Skill certificate)
· Passport and a copy of your passport
· Possible legalization of degrees and certification and then official translation into Chinese (sometimes required, sometimes not)

3. Residence Permit* from the Division of Exit & Entry Administration Dept. of Public Security of Beijng.
· Temporary residence registration
· Work permit
· Health certificate
· 2 passport photos
· A copy of the business license & original
· Passport and a copy of passport
· Application Form with company stamp
· Fee: Depends on nationality

* It is not a green book. That has been eliminated. It is a sticker placed in your passport which seems like a visa, but upon closer inspection it is not.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it. The company that has offered me the job is a marketing position at a real estate company. It's actually through a friend, so I don't think they are used to, or have hired expats before, which now has me concerned this might be difficult or not possible to do.

If I do need to leave the country and come back to get the visa, is that difficult? Also, in regards to the residence permit, once you have it, does it force you to register under a specific address? Basically what I'd like to know is if it would be possible to move to another city after I have obtained the visa. Thanks again.

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

jaemaeselian wrote:
Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it. The company that has offered me the job is a marketing position at a real estate company. It's actually through a friend, so I don't think they are used to, or have hired expats before, which now has me concerned this might be difficult or not possible to do.

If I do need to leave the country and come back to get the visa, is that difficult? Also, in regards to the residence permit, once you have it, does it force you to register under a specific address? Basically what I'd like to know is if it would be possible to move to another city after I have obtained the visa. Thanks again.

Leaving the country isn't difficult, but it will cost you approximately $500 in airfares, accomodation costs and related expenses for a short trip to Hong Kong.

Yes, the residence permit is tied to a specific address but you can easily modify your address should you move. On a related note, the residence permit is tied to one specific employer and it is very complicated to change should you leave your first employer and decide to work for another one.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

That's interesting. I don't plan on changing employers, but I can foresee a change of location. However I was under the impression that once you had your Z-visa, it didn't really matter who you worked for, as it could be changed to whatever company you were working for.

In regards to doing the Hong Kong thing, is that what most people do in this situation?

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

jaemaeselian wrote:
That's interesting. I don't plan on changing employers, but I can foresee a change of location. However I was under the impression that once you had your Z-visa, it didn't really matter who you worked for, as it could be changed to whatever company you were working for.

In regards to doing the Hong Kong thing, is that what most people do in this situation?

If you obtained a "Z" visa / residence permit to work for Company A, it is not valid once you leave Company A. There is a process for legally changing employers and transferring your residence permit under your new employer, but it requires a letter of release from Company A and obtaining a new work permit before the PSB will approve it, if at all.

Going to Hong Kong is what most people would do as it is not only the cheapest, but where you may have the least amount of problems at the visa office.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

Well thanks, you've made this whole situation a lot clearer for me now. It has been difficult for me to figure this kind of thing out from another country.

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

gdbill wrote:
jaemaeselian wrote:
· Qualifications Proof (a copy of personal highest degree, Skill certificate)
· Passport and a copy of your passport
· Possible legalization of degrees and certification and then official translation into Chinese (sometimes required, sometimes not)

hi guys,

im trying to find more info on the degree situation in applying for work visa fom beijing.

is a photocopy of university degree enough? must it be original?

what does it mean by legalization of degrees? how do you know if official translation to chinese is needed or not?

thanks in anticipation

Re: Getting a Z visa legitimately in Beijing

crowpie wrote:
gdbill wrote:
jaemaeselian wrote:
· Qualifications Proof (a copy of personal highest degree, Skill certificate)
· Passport and a copy of your passport
· Possible legalization of degrees and certification and then official translation into Chinese (sometimes required, sometimes not)

what does it mean by legalization of degrees? how do you know if official translation to chinese is needed or not?

thanks in anticipation

Legalization means that the original degree is given to the Chinese consulate covering the area where the school that issued the degree resides. The consulate will place their seal and signature on the back of the degree.

In some locations, the degree needs to be sealed and signed by the state government before being given to the consulate.

For legalization, you do not need an official translation. However, once the legalized document arrives here in China, the local government may require it be done here locally.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

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