If you paid for it, no problem.

If they paid for it, they'll probably deduct the fee from whatever they owe you.

Shouldn't be too big of a deal, unless you quit like I have before, by throwing things around the room. :oops:

hum... a Z visa is only valid until you get your residence permit.
As long as you have your passport in your possession, they cannot cancel or revoke it. Problem is that when you try an renew it, you might need a release letter from said employer to get a new one but that's easily fixable.

do not give them your passport!!!!!

nope sorry badr...

not the case..

once you dont work for them if you still have a z visa registered with them they can revoke it without your passport and without your knowledge..

think about the situation if you are an employer and a foreign teacher skips town or leves the country, you dont want to still be responsible for them for the length of the visa.. its very easy for them to go to the government and cancel it.

trust me....
happened to me not 6 months ago.

i got the z visa and residency permit in Beijing.. not from home.

my company did all the letter of invitation, hospital, business license and stuff... the whole thing cost them 3500RMB...

I worked there for 6 months and then my contract was up i went to another company, my boss told me that he needed to cancel my visa so i contacted him twice via email but got no reply, so i forgot about it and kept my z visa registered to one company while working at another

6 months later when my visa was about to be up i took it to traders link and told them i needed to renew it/change it for an F visa... they said i needed a letter of release...

i called my ex-boss and asked him for this letter...

he said "sure i will give it to you but you should know we had your visa revoked 5 months ago"

i got the letter of release and my passport and took it back to traderslink.

They took it away and called me a week later to tell me that i had no z visa that it had been cancelled and that there would be some problems...

2 weeks later again they called me.. i went to the office paid the bribes they needed to pay and got my new f visa.

yep...

it happened..

but this is china.. who knows.

and to anci..

if you are worried.. i really have an amazing visa company.. the best ive used ever. they take care of it all dont ask for anything and are the cheapest by far.

Sino, I'ma need that in the future...maybe. In any case, at least I know where to run off & get help. Thanks, thanks!! .

~ Tobal.

I had a valid Z visa/residence permit for about 9 months after I quit my job with the school that gave me the visa, even left the country and came back twice. The old employer made all kinds of threats but I never met them, held onto my passport and everything was fine.

When it is time to get a new Z visa however, it is very difficult to go from Z to Z without the release letter from your old school/company. From what I understand you have to first get an F visa and then you can get a new Z visa without the release letter.

Just went through this and had to go to Hong Kong to avoid the hassle of dealing with my old company for that stupid release letter

Well ok apparently it really depends on the situation, how on lucky you are, or on how good and naive you are. I guess i've been f***ed up.

I had a Z visa valid until january 2008 but found a new job here in BJ and politely asked to quit. I should have left at once without saying anything to those bastards. I even helped them to find a new worker to replace me.

Still :
- they cancelled my visa and changed it into a tourist L one which is valid until friday (means in three days i'm illegal)
- I had to PAY for the cancellation process (160 rmb, not much but it's the idea : should i pay myself for my own cancellation and put myself into trouble ?)
- but the best is that today they refused to give me any F visa, not even had a look at my application form because supposedly I cant "extend" the 3 days L visa i have. Of course ! i dont wanna extend it, fu*k you, i just wanna pay 400 more RMB to get a real 6 months F one....

So apparently i'll have to go to HK in two days and miss the first whole week in my new job... that's a good start for your boss, isnt it ?

When I think I could have just left, hang ouyt quietly in Japan or Vietnam for two weeks and then be back.....

Fu*k it, I'm really tired of China sometimes.

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@ badr STOP showing off would you please???????? VISAs are serious sh*t therefor keep your crappy informations for your >little circle< 4 friends... the law is crystal clear, you lose / cancel your job or studying purposes you lose your visa PERIOD! now the rest is to the last person that signed for your whatever kind of visa to transfer it to another entity or not - seams that you are well acquainted with how to by pass laws in this country don't forget to stay lucky ... cuze when it hits, it hits really hard ...

LUCKY CASE: i have seen a man having to pay a small penalty of 1000RMB per week stayed in the country with a 4 months expired tourist visa you do the math and they were VERY lenient with him. he had then up to 72 hours to take off. all provinces have different fees and ways about how to manage irregularities this is china after all and so what

again pure horse sh*t - a residency permit in NOT ALWAYS given - January 2005 VPRCO had officially implemented an experimental system i.e. the famous residency permit which is NOT granted TO ALL.
YES residency permits HAVE A VALIDITY and AN EXPIRATION date on them - i have seen residency permits valid for 3 years others for 1 only.

Article 40 Aliens who enter or leave China illegally may be punished with a fine of 1000 to 10000 yuan, or held in detention for 3 to 10 days, and may also concurrently be ordered to leave the country within a specified time limits or be deported from the country; where the circumstances are serious enough to constitute a crime, they shall be investigated for the criminal responsibility according to law.

Approved by the State Council on December 3, 1986, promulgated by the Ministry of Public Security and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on December 27,1986, amended with the approval of the State Council on July 13, 1994 and promulgated by the Ministry of the Public Security and the Ministry of the Foreign Affairs on July 15, 1994)

dude, get over yourself!

I posted the information I know to be accurate and correct. Feel free to correct it if you have better reference/source but take a chill pill at the same time.

1- The law is clear in respects to VISAs but not in its application

2- The stuff you quoted is pretty darn old and outdated, not to mention irrelevant. most articles were updated in late 2004 and went into effect early 2005 starting in guangzhou and going one province at the time

3- the maximum fine is indeed 5000 RMB as confirmed by many sources on this forum and others, not to mention as implemented last year on some person I happen to know.

4- what that's stuff about my friends breaking contracts all about?

actually voted on July 15, 1994.

enough with your friends already - it is against PRC law to hack websites and peoples computer - you have been busy learning nothing but that in 2006.... haven't' you?