Registration with police station
I have an F visa for studies in Shanghai. I start studying there at the end of Feb. In the meantime I'm staying with a friend in BJ and traveling up North.
Do I have to register with the local PSB? I hear register ASAP, but if I'm not staying around here for long what address would I give them etc? =S Or should I do it when I arrive in Shanghai to study. But then will I be fined for doing it... 6 weeks late?
I've only been on L visas before and have never registered with the PSB on my 5 or so previous visas. How do they know? Is it when you apply for your next F visa that they want to see it?




Glenderful
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You must register upon arrival, even if it is only for one night. Go today.
V
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Whether you are fined or warned seems to be at the discretion of the person taking your registration information. I got around to it about 2 months after I was supposed to do it. The woman who processed the information didn't bat an eyelid or ask any questions.
Cheers,
swissliam
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So why exactly do people bother to register? When would they check if you have or haven't? Anyways this is good to know!
So if you're staying with a friend, what exactly do you bring them etc when you register, just your passport?
Thanks =)
oh! Anyone know a website with list of addresses or something? I'm on Bei San Huan, nearish to BeiHang univsersity. Not sure where I am supposed to go.
V
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I don't know the answer to your questions. I only registered because I run a business here and just didn't want to deal with the hassle if I "got caught". One of my very good friends is a Chinese American who has lived here for 5 years, travels back and forth 10-15 times a year, and he's never been questioned about it. He got a good laugh that I took it seriously enough to roll down the the police station and do it. However, I've got a work visa so I suspect that people here on tourist or student visas might be treated a little differently. I honestly don't know. I do know that the odds of getting busted are pretty slim.
Cheers,
coeurdelion
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If you don't register with the police, you won't get a new visa or extension. Go for a stroll around your neihborhood today. Police stations are plenty, and if you take the wrong one, they will let you know where to go.
Take as many things as you can: your friend's tenancy contract, a copy of the landlord's ID, your passport, the address of course. Go for the "stupid foreigner" approach and they shouldn't get too angry.
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seabreeze98
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Got fined for being about 3 weeks late for registration. Needed that piece of paper for my work visa. :arrow:
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coeurdelion
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Out of interest, how much did you get fined?
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seabreeze98
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RMB300 plus write a letter excusing myself for not knowing the law, and wouldn't do it again, etc. Which the officer did herself. I just signed at the end.
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coeurdelion
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Lucky you. Friend of mine had to sign the same letter, but only after she copied it meticulously character by character. But then, she didn't have to pay anything.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!
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desire_BJ
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I'll have a friend over next month. She'll be living in my apartment for about 3 weeks. Do I need to drag my landlord down to the police station to get my friend registered? Or is a copy of the landlord's ID sufficient?
And reading throught the thread, I suppose the rest of the items needed would be:-
Lease contract
My passport
My friend's passport
Did I miss anything else?
V
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Copy of your landlord's ID is perfectly acceptable. That's what I used.
Cheers,
V
wintersnow35
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I often have friends coming over to Beijing and upon their arrival I just bring them to the police station with the following documents:
1. Photocopy of your landlord's ID back to back
2. Copy of your Contract lease
3. Passport of your friend
Sometimes they don't bother to ask questions they just give you the temporary Registration form.
BTW if you are late, cause the usual thing is within 24 hours of your arrival, just tell them you just arrived.
Go now!!!!
desire_BJ
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Thanks guys! I'll take my friend down to the nearest police station the moment she gets off the train!
spettro9
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more info:
http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9698
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- Jared Diamond, Dan Brown, and Spencer Wells to teach them about world/human history.
- MLK and Gandhi and Einstein to teach them about what being human means.
aier
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I have had so much trouble and hassle over those stupid residence permits that I wont go into it here.
Suffice it to say that I would recommend you do it.
I also hear that they are randomly checking foreigners around colleges.
spettro9
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I have heard it's gonna get quite a bit more strict regarding this registration after the Olympics are over,
and also Visa policy and issues will change,
but maybe this is old news...
What China really needs:
- Bill Nye, "the Science Guy", to come teach them basic Science.
- Jared Diamond, Dan Brown, and Spencer Wells to teach them about world/human history.
- MLK and Gandhi and Einstein to teach them about what being human means.
ilikeithot
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When you renew your visa for sure.
They also might stop you randomly on the street. Sometimes they have campaigns and they might camp outside your apartment block in the evening when you return home - they'll get you then. Sneaky bastards!
gdbill
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Some say that it is getting strict before and up to the Olympics, but after it will get lax again. Difficult to say.
Has anything been published about it?
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libertin
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It doesn't really matter. The registration procedure will take you just a few minutes, so why not do it? If you stay at a hotel, they do it for you. If you travel around, you don't need to do it (if you don't stay for more more than 24 hours in towns or 72 hours at the countryside, technically, but I think they won't mind too much if you tell them that you are leaving the day after).
oldlady
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Don't forget photos. (I think you only need one, but heck we registered people last month, since then everything could have changed)
Also make a copy of your passport for them. Each police station is different best to be prepared cause it REALLY sucks to be waiting forever in line only to find out you need a %&$&%*^(@@! photo or have to be sent up the street to procure a photocopy of your passport.
polizeit
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i came here in september, and just got around to registering now (now being jan. 28th). this is a thorough documentation of my unpleasant experience:
- since my stay in china, i've been stopped twice by an authority and asked to show the registration. once in the subway, once they raided the offices of an english-teaching company i work at. miraculously, i got out unscathed in both instances. the first time, in the subway, she came out of nowhere... i just turned around and i was facing a short, fat lady with a badge on her sweater asking me "WHERE DO YOU LIVE?" in broken english. she said "I AM POLICE". i was nervous, so i just said the name of a district far away from where i was at the time, and she let me go. the second time, when they raided the offices, i told the officer that i have registered, but i didn't have the registration paper on me. he seemed kinda sneaky, so someone at the office asked to see his ID. he said he forgot it, so he left and said he'd be back. we were suspicious, but it turns out they were real. it was a cop, a girl assistant (assuming she was a translator) and someone else in a suit... i couldn't tell what his role was. i also had a copy of my visa and passport somehow in my backpack, which i think took a little heat off me.
after this experience, i decided that i definitely needed to go get registered. here's how it happened (i couldn't have done it without the help of my beautiful chinese girlfriend).
- had a representative from the real-estate agency (aka landlord) come meet us at the apartment complex (i live in a traditional community). we went to the office of the community, and signed a piece of paper there. don't ask me what it was, but apparently we had to do this first. i think this step was registering with the community. they asked to see my passport, and also requested a copy of my passport and a copy of my visa. they also requested a photo, which i didn't have, but they let it slide.
- after that mess, we went to the police station. this is the tricky part. i took with me my passport, a copy of my passport, a copy of my visa and the housing contract. since i had been here for a long time, but hadn't yet registered, my landlord schemed with my girlfriend to lie to the authorities that i just got in. HUGE MISTAKE. every time you come into china, they stamp your passport with the date of your arrival. the lady at the office was not pleased, and of course caught them on the lie immediately. i had to pay a 200 yuan fine and sign a "i didn't know" statement. after everything was processed, i was given the registration paper with the wrong spelling of my name, and wrong birthdate. we had to really argue with them to convince them that they should print a new one with the correct information.
- i finally received my registration, thank god, after 3 hours. it was quite a messy experience.
COMPARE THIS experience to that of my friend who just moved into his new flat. he doesn't know any chinese, has been here for longer than i have, and never registered... his landlord just took him to the station and he came back 30 minutes later with a registration form, no fees, no hassle, no fines, no questions.
SO,
if you are wondering about the registration, it is these points i wanna make clear to you:
- get registered ASAP. preferably within 24 hours, if you don't you will regret it later FOR SURE. if you haven't registered yet and you've been here awhile, you may pay more than me, may pay less or nothing at all.
- bring the following items:
+passport
+two copies of each and all chinese visas (previous, current)
+two copies of main passport page
+photos
+housing contract
- go with the landlord, but don't make the same MISTAKE that i did! make sure you go with someone that has done this before, someone with experience. my landlord had never done this before, and he was a terrible liar too. my friend, who is a f-ing lucky bastard, went with his landlord who was very experienced at this. he got the whole operation done in 30 minutes, no fines, no hassle. let me reiterate that this friend has been here for a year and never bothered to register.
- don't lie to the officers. as a foreigner, they automatically think you're stupid and they probably have some kind of a inferiority/superiority complex towards you anyway. if i could go back again, i wouldn't go with a translator at all, i would just play stupid and pretend like i didn't know i had to register... but i wouldn't have lied about my arrival date. i could see how much pleasure the lady officer took in catching us in the lie, so don't bother putting yourself in that position unless you really think you've got your bases covered. and i also firmly believe that i probably wouldn't have paid a fine if we hadn't pissed off that lady by lying.
GOOD LUCK
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Glenderful
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Thank you for posting this useful information! This is exactly the purpose of the forum!
ele
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More info then
Couple of days ago, Dongfeng PSB
Passport/Visa - required
Passport size photo with white background - on hand, but not required
Rental contract - required
Photocopy of landlord's ID card - required
Landlord - not present, not required
Stamped statement of residence from Property Management - required
Total time: 10 minutes
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Disappointed
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To bring up this subject again. Yesterday afternoon, I decide to go to the Police Station for registering. The following documents are in my bag:
- Passport
- Lease Agreement
- "Registration from my Management office about my apartment"
- bad copy of the Landlord's ID
After entering the police station, I saw the board for foreigners, young man was sitting behind the desk, not speaking any English word. So, I don't speak any word Chinese -- giving him the before mentioned documents, and after 15 minutes, it was done. He remember me (with signs), that I have to leave China in about 20 days, then I have to come back to him and he will extend the Temporary Residence Registration.
Everything smoothly, no hurry and friendly (police station close to Donghzhimen bus station). This was yesterday............today I went to office early in the morning, but not feeling very well, so decided to walk back to the apartment. Just entering the compound complex about 40 to 50 young police men are walking. After recognising the laowai (means, me), five of them are coming to me and asking for the passport and this registration paper. After checking, I could go!
After about 80 meters walking, three ladies with some "kind of tags" are coming to me, telling they are volunteers for the immigration police and would like to see my passport and registration. Then they filled in some tables with my name, building number, and apartment number.
Good luck for me, that I have decided yesterday to go to the police!!

women are like tornados, they moan like hell, when they come and take the house, when they leave
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Watson
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Sounds like I live in the same neighborhood, as I also have to go to the police station in that area. I have never seen this, and I NEVER carry my passport with me. Can you (if you want to) tell us where exactly these three ladies were ??
Disappointed
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This police troops were devided into three parts:
1. The 40 to 50 young men, 40 to 50 m behing them, their boss
2. and two "bag-carrier" were coming and
3. again 40 meters behind the boss, this three ladies (two of them were young and one was old) were walking.
After the youngster have done their job, I also have shown the passport to the boss, but he refused. But the ladies have written down everything in their "booklet".
I'm also nearly shure, that they have visited many apartments and ringing, because I have never seen so many police men in one place!!
Normally, the passport is ALWAYS with me. Due to the fact, that I have moved to my new apartment last Sunday, I also took the chance to legalize my stay in China by registering with the police - without paying any fine.
and
I agree, in the last 2.5 years I also have never been approached by anyone in China for showing my passport (of course, at the airport and in the hotels). It seems to be, that the "pre-olympics-cleaning" is starting!! So, take care!
women are like tornados, they moan like hell, when they come and take the house, when they leave
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HuanChu
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I live out here in the sticks, East 6th Ring Road.
Was living my little compound yesterday, when one of our local rent-a-cops came over and asked if i lived here. After answering a few questions, he said next time, he would like to see a copy of my registration paper, because the community had been contacted by the police, and asked to check all foreign residents.
Something else i would point out, and this is only my advice. But if if you live in Beijing, don't carry your actual passport around with you. Photocopy the info page, the visa page, and your last entry stamp page, as well as your registration paper, and carry those. If cops have a problem with that, you can tell them you can show them the real one later.
But from my 9 year experience, carrying the real thing is way to much of a risk. Lose it, and your hassles will be huge. Better safe than sorry.
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V
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I live in Fuli Cheng and have been asked by one of their "rent a cops" once if I had registered.
One thing that wasn't made clear to me is whether or not I need to carry this "registration" receipt around with me. I always keep my passport in my pocket.
Cheers,
Watson
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I have no idea where I put that little registration paper.
Anyway, not going to worry about it. I've registered already and I am on a legal Z visa....
If someone wanted to really investigate me then let them. The whole thing is stupid...
avianflu
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If you lapse on registering in time it's best to tell the police that you were traveling for business and weren't in Beijing to register.
The last time I registered I had to show a copy of my landlord's ID card and a copy of his hukou and a copy of the first two pages of his property registration proving the house was his. He faxed all the stuff to me and STILL had to talk with the surly police woman via my cell phone.
I agree Watson - the whole thing is rather retarded. My girlfriend even said, "I can't believe how much they hassle you foreigners. If it was a Chinese person registering we'd be in and out."