Are you worth 200/hour ?
I don't want to put AD here, since not allowing. But I do looking for teachers. I see here a lot people talking about salary, don't take the job lower than 200. I totally agree it. I even can pay higher. But here I’m asking dose all the native English speakers can be the teacher and worth 200.
So if not have another position,just play with student have fun go to the zoo. How about I just buy free ticket to you or go to the bar give 5 bottles beer for free.
Here I’m hoping everyone can find a well pay money job, and I’m still looking for Real teacher.




abstruse44
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
ya if anybody just can't get the proper position...just hang on with the damn students and enjoy your time.....aiiight
shizo
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
"Worth" is a relative term.
To some, a Beijing Opera performer is a highly skilled and respected master. To me, it's just a funky guy with a painted face who talks and moves funny.
Also, it depends on what your goal of learning English is (later use). If it's for everyday conversation, then anyone can be your teacher. Including Jerry the truck driver (me). But if your goal is to write newspaper articles in English, then you'll need something else..
If your teacher is an Oxford graduate with immaculate spoken English, perhaps he's worth 200 kuai. But see things for what they are, it's just a language tutor for crying out loud! For anything serious you should be going to a university.
There is something else I wanted to say, but I forget..
It's better to be nice, kind, generous, friendly, helpful, sexy and rich than to be obnoxious, scary, stinky, stingy, lonely and poor.
Montana
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
200 kwai an hour,
What am I thinking passed latin, flunked german, survival italian and greek, who wants to learn english.
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not worth my time, why pay to learn something I have spoken and written improperly my entire life.
OHHHHHH You were looking for a tutor, my bad
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TheIncredibleEgg
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
How do you pick your teachers? If you're offering 200/per hour or even more, then you should demand a lot from your teacher.
Remember that most foreign ESL teachers in China wouldn't even get to an interview for an ESL job in Europe. Chinese employers aren't just picky enough and they're often misslead by ethnicity and skin-colour.
My suggestion is that if i you can't find a native speaker with a proper ESL degree (or even a general teaching degree), then go find a non-native speaker. Atleast non-native speakers have gone through years of ESL classes and know what an ESL class is. Of course, just because someone used to be an ESL student, doesn't mean that the person in question is eligible ESL teacher, but it's better than nothing.
Also -like someone said above- if you're just looking for someone to just speak English with, you should get any native speaker. But then again, you shouldn't pay 200 kuai for the job.
rossi92353
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
God you westerners have a lot of problems.
beijingcat
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
lol only if he/she has a perfect body and is willing to teach naked,,,
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CA_Johnny
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
God, beijingcat, you're such a dirty little slut. and i say that with all due respect.
Nomadz
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
I thought the post was about hookers.
Oh, but on second thoughts - is there really a difference ?
Disappointed
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
To answer the question correctly:"Are you worth 200/hour?".
1. 200 EURO = yes, this is my normal income.
....but in one hour, even too much for me!
2. 200 RMB = No, for this little money, I would not waste my working time.
3. 300 Women = I have to think about it.....
women are like tornados, they moan like hell, when they come and take the house, when they leave
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seabreeze98
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
200rmb@4hrs/day x 22days/mth ... 16,800rmb/mth. Not bad. Maybe I should start doing some part-time English teaching job.
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Howdie90
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
It depends. If you're an english school with administration staff who cannot even speak or write english properly, and you are charging 10,000 yuan for the privelege of finding and paying a teach 120RMB an hour, making you a clean profit for doing next to nothing, then I would ask you to pay me 200RMB to at least improve your english. You're supposed to be a language school after all.
lmao
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
A lot of native speakers have bad accents, little knowledge of their language (like grammar, small vocabulary et cet). If you are willing to pay 200 you should demand some kind of teaching education and maybe even experience. The others pay less, so why should you pay more for a "hack teacher"?
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pembroke
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
I can help you achieve a good standard of English language, but it will cost you 300 rmb per hour. To the point, a teacher's rate is only worth what the client is prepared to pay.
Jordean
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
Grammar "et cet" ain't everything.
"A disarmed populace learns to knuckle under."
-- javajoe, or was it Charlton Heston?
saroq
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
You guys have been living in China too long. In the real world a plumber, electrician or any other trademan you can name gets at least 400 an hour. Gees what do people expect for 200?
lmao
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
Well, we're not in your "real world", we're in a country where a maid gets 10 kuai per hour, and as she will scrub your toilet and oil your floor for that money, I guess you can expect quite a bit for 200.
To OP: there is a world of difference between someone who is trained to teach the language and someone who just does it because you will pay them 200 per hour but doesn't know what they're doing. Go for the trained teacher over the native speaker. The advantages of having a native speaker as teacher are utterly irrelevant for most Chinese students.
Oh Wind, if Winter cometh, can Spring be far behind?
pembroke
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
"The advantages of having a native speaker as teacher are utterly irrelevant for most Chinese students."
That may be why many Chinese students who aren't taught by native speakers have trouble being understood when speaking.
Curiousg (not verified)
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
Based on my extensive experience of teaching English in China, I'm calling bullsh1t on this one. Certainly, if you're lucky enough to jag an excellent Chinese English teacher who
a) can speak great English
b ) knows when to use total immersion and when to help a little bit with the odd tactical reminder in Chinese
c) has good teaching ability
then you may well be correct. However, these teachers are as rare as hen's teeth. From what I've seen, the standard of the average Chinese English teacher is far lower than that of the average native speaking hack teacher, and that's saying something. At least the natives can, y'know, actually speak and write English!
At my school, there are several native English-speaking teachers (some have B.Eds, some are CELTA trained, some learnt on the job) and a few relatively decent Chinese professional English teachers. Guess which group gets - far and away - the best results out of the students?*
*hint - it's not the Chinese teachers.
ESG
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
I'm way more worth than 200 rmb an hour (^_~)
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Moon-qu
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
disappointed
zhenlai
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
Why are you disappointed moon qu?
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nanananayeah
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
can i ask you guys a question? if you guys earn RMB200 per hour, do you always work 8 hours per day? or are there some days where you only work a few hours? is that normal, or is it more normal to work 8 hrs per day, 5 days per week? if so, that'd be like RMB32,000 per month, which is not terrible..
Trust me, it's so danger.
56785678
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
RMB200 per hour is whitening cosmetic that agencies promote.
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56785678
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
Zhenlai offers you free fling behind his wife.
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Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
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xinglish
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
The answer is always going to be subjective. IMO 200 is actually low if you realize that most schools are charging their students on average better than twice that much, then paying the teacher only 200. So for a VIP one to one class 200 is more than reasonable...if the teacher is more than just an FOB laowei with zero teaching experience looking to get some quick cash.
In reality its the FOB hacks that undervalue the teaching trade here, and thereby create the quandary this poster has as to what 200 gets you in the way of learning English, and if its a worthwhile sum...for a teacher.
Every student knows the value of a teacher after the first class. Really depends on how badly you want to learn and improve your English and if you care whether your accent sounds like anything other than a native speaker. In China I've found most students tend to speak with forty different accents combined and only a few care what dialect and accent their gaining.
Ask the teacher many questions if you care about the process, and you'll know what they intend to bring to the equation. And you'll soon learn if they really are worth 200...or more.
Where are you from?
Is English your native language?
What dialect of English do you speak?
Do you have a college degree?
How long have you been teaching ESL?
Do you have references?
Why are you in China....etc....
"The EFL teaching industry in China is like Chinglish"
whereisshenmue3
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
I don't understand why a college degree matters.
I have a degree but it is in something so removed from teaching as to be totally irrelavent. A high school diploma should be enough. People get too hung up on education, thse days it is worthless.
The most important things are a nice clear accent and the ability to use English properly. Patience is also vital.
Is someone worth 200? Of course if they are dedicated and willing to work hard to improve that student then it will can pay dividends.
It is only half the answer though. The other half is whether it is worth paying 200 for the student? i.e. will they actually make the best use of the tuition
GreatNorth
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
@xinglish - I agree that 200 is actually a little on the low side. Think of a regular, run-of-the-mill class of 12 students, each parent paying 70-100 RMB an hour. The schools are making a killing while the teacher (who is actually the face/money-making of the entire arrangement) makes a small fraction.
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HuanChu
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
What are you? A 12 year old communist?
Why shouldn't a company turn a good profit? They are the one who have set up the company, organised the teaching materials, found students, and found the teacher.
The teacher is not the face/money making device of a whole school. English is. And seeing as there are thousands of teachers willing to teach English, the going rate will be lower.
If you don't want to work for them, don't. Look on tbj classifieds. Open your own school. Put ads around your community. Whatever you want. But don't bitch about not getting paid enough.
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whereisshenmue3
Re: Are you worth 200/hour ?
I have to add that the amount of basic spelling mistakes and simple grammatical errors on this forum from so called English teachers is embarrassing. The number of times someone professing to be a teacher doesn't know the difference between there/their/they're is frightening.
It is all about being flashy and entertaining rather than a good teacher.
The parents want a clown who can keep their kids entertained for a couple of hours rather than an intelligent person from whom their children may learn something.