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Using the Beijing Bus System

Many foreigners in Beijing end up not taking the bus, for reasons including the fact that the signs have little pinyin, Would you take the Bus more if you could read the signs?

Edit: Since making this thread, many of the buses have added signs inside that have pinyin, and many of the stations have put up maps that show routes of the buses stopping there that include pinyin...
you gotta admin it's getting better.
it's getting better all the time.
hehe

But still, the Beijing bus system is relatively very inexpensive, quite efficient, and goes throughout the city. In an effort to help more people, especially foreigners take the bus, I will try to provide information such as the following:

- The official map of the Beijing Bus System in Chinese (now works in firefox, and chrome)
http://www.bjbus.com/

- Here is a small book that can help a lot with taking the Beijing bus system:

It is 12 rmb at SinoMaps Press located at these 2 Map stores and I have seen it at other bookstores too:
3 BaiZhiFang Street, XuanWu District 北京市宣武区白纸坊西街3号
50 SanLiHe Road, XiCheng District 北京市西城区三里河路50路

(You will need some Chinese for it, but using this kind of book is a good place to start to learn to read Chinese characters; Place names are full of basic characters and a lot of repetition and systematic-ness....)

With the aid of a good map of Beijing, better yet one that names the bus stops and the numbers of most buses, this can be a good way to practice Chinese; one can learn new characters little by little, as many place names have many common characters.

If needed, I can personally help you figure out bus routes that you need..

What China really needs:
- Bill Nye, "the Science Guy", to come teach them basic Science.
- Jared Diamond, Dan Brown, and Spencer Wells to teach them about world/human history.
- MLK and Gandhi and Einstein to teach them about what being human means.


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...does it have pinyin, too?

just call it anything

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Sorry 'bout that. I'm talking about the bus-route-map-book thingy (I put that in the subject). Does it have pinyin, too?

just call it anything

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personman wrote:
Sorry 'bout that. I'm talking about the bus-route-map-book thingy (I put that in the subject). Does it have pinyin, too?

no unfortunately,
yet again, another chance to improve your Chinese...

What China really needs:
- Bill Nye, "the Science Guy", to come teach them basic Science.
- Jared Diamond, Dan Brown, and Spencer Wells to teach them about world/human history.
- MLK and Gandhi and Einstein to teach them about what being human means.

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In preparation of my move to Beijing in August I did some research in an attempt to find a subway/transportation map of Beijing for Google Earth.

I found a good one, or what I think is a good one.
You can check it out on Google Maps here
or you can download the layer for Google Earth by going here.

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BeerSpitNight wrote:
In preparation of my move to Beijing in August I did some research in an attempt to find a subway/transportation map of Beijing for Google Earth.

I found a good one, or what I think is a good one.
You can check it out on Google Maps here
or you can download the layer for Google Earth by going here.

that was a good attempt by whoever put that together,
it shows locations of Subway (Lines 1, 2, & 13) Stations with their exits
and some Bus stations,
but if it showed the bus routes that would be much better; there's no way to really look at just one bus routes stations...
and they don't show the bus station names..... that's not good

What China really needs:
- Bill Nye, "the Science Guy", to come teach them basic Science.
- Jared Diamond, Dan Brown, and Spencer Wells to teach them about world/human history.
- MLK and Gandhi and Einstein to teach them about what being human means.

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if you know where you're going and know how to type in a little chinese, several websites can map out a route for you like google maps.

i use maps.sogou.com, but baidu has a version too. i find them to be not perfect, but generally pretty good about getting me where i want. sogou will also mix subway and bus in routes.

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Right, so, it's been two years since my horrified post about the bus experience in your previous thread.

Since then, I've severely reduced my commute, the bus system has improved immensely, and I've discovered alcohol, smartphones and netbooks.

My buskit goes like this:
1) Phone hella-loaded with music, movies, ebooks, games, the works.
2) Big f***-off headphones glued to my ears and cranked.
2) GSM-enabled netbook for when the phone gets boring.
3) Baidu if I ever need to plot a route.
4) "Clean" - my very own concoction of Red Star white and Tongyi orange drink. Stealth! Combined with chewing gum, it's your very own no-smell no-tell party in your pocket!

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I avoid the bus at all costs. It is almost inhuman, like animals packed in on the way to the slaughterhouse. Taxis every day is too expensive (I live far from the city center) so I've mostly been riding my bike (apart from dead of winter). It's faster and a hellova lot less stressful than this:

"Hou zou! Hou zou!!"

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I use the bus more often than anything else to get around.

If you get caught on a rush hour bus, be prepared for one of the most miserable rides of your life, as you're squashed in the crowd, standing still in a contorted position trying to hold on to the railing for ten minutes per intersection in traffic.

But aside from that, I'd say it's pretty damn convenient and ridiculously cheap. Takes longer than the subway, but much less walking in general.
I was very impressed by how much English/pinyin Beijing buses have now.

I use ditu.google.cn to map new routes (requires typing in chinese)
www.mapbar.com is good, too, with the bonus feature that you can view specific bus routes (works in Firefox, unlike bjbus.com).

Sometimes I feel it is maybe unbearable always be traditional Chinese girl.

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So:

Is there any comprehensive English resource for bus commuters in Beijing? At all?

If not, I'm about to f-ing build one. I'm sick of people saying they're unusable.

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I have a Lenovo phone, it comes with TigerMap. I can look at maps of hundreds of cities in China. Favorite feature is the bus line search, just type in the number and the route appears on the map with an option to see the stops listed. The functions are in English and the results are in Chinese.

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saysthis wrote:
So:

Is there any comprehensive English resource for bus commuters in Beijing? At all?

If not, I'm about to f-ing build one. I'm sick of people saying they're unusable.

I've been looking for ages.... if you find one I'd be glad to see it.
But if you know enough chinese to type it on a computer, you can map routes on google (hell even if you don't you can right click on your destination on the map for god's sake).... and when you get to the actual bus, they always have pinyin translations of the characters (plus the recording always announces the next stop in english)....
so really it is quite usable, just takes a tad more effort and awareness than the subway.

But to be frank, I wouldn't recommend it to the average expat. It can be quite stressful, especially if you're not acclimated to a "china life." (This isn't meant to be condescending in any way.)

Sometimes I feel it is maybe unbearable always be traditional Chinese girl.

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http://www.bjbus.com/home/index.php and select English top right corner

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I wish there would be enough sub stations to cancel every buses in town (which are one of the main sources of pollution in town). I don't think taking the bus is that hard, unless you've been in the city for two days only. Plus, you can ask around you (even with a broken chinese) people will show you the station you're looking for on the board with a broad smile on their face.
Now I personnaly think buses are slow, stinky, and you've got to fight your way in or run after the bus if it stops three miles away from the designated stop, that makes it an horrible way to cross the city.
Regarding the tube, let's face it, BJ subway's is pure sh*t too. Old, stinky, dangerous in some stations and you still have ladies collecting tickets...wtf... . Best subway in China is Guangzhou's one. Very new, high tech, clean, even better than HK's sub.

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Search the bus route by using Google map.
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Xelium23 wrote:
Now I personnaly think buses are slow, stinky, and you've got to fight your way in or run after the bus if it stops three miles away from the designated stop, that makes it an horrible way to cross the city.
Regarding the tube, let's face it, BJ subway's is pure sh*t too. Old, stinky, dangerous in some stations and you still have ladies collecting tickets...wtf... . Best subway in China is Guangzhou's one. Very new, high tech, clean, even better than HK's sub.

Agree! I used to take buses everyday in the morning to go to work. That was the worst time of each day. Another horrible thing about bus is that it is so unpredicatable, time wise. Like, I lived two bus stops away from my work, not far but not worth walking. If everything goes fine it should take me less than 10 mins to get to my office. But a lot of days it took me like 20 mins to wait for my bus, and 3 same buses came at the same time. That's rediculous! And of course I was late for work those days.

Subway, a little bit better, but you still have to fight you way into the train during rush hours. Personally Line 1 is the worst, and Line 13 is the second worst.

To Loser King: I think your keyboard doesnt type letters, it types loneliness.

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Apart from the peak hours I praise the Beijing bus system, but my bicycle still does win the race of all means of transportation in this city.

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I've never had any problems with the bus system here. True the timing can be unpredictable, but with the traffic the way it is here I think the buses do ok and are a cheap option.
I mostly use my bicycle though and I've found it to be about the same for time as the buses.

Sometimes the same is different, but mostly, it's the same.

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No Doubt. Beijing has a good transport system in term of buses. I like this system.

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lolymia wrote:
No Doubt. Beijing has a good transport system in term of buses. I like this system.

are you kidding me? have you ever taken a bus during the rush hour?

Beijing bus system is unreliable, inconvenient and unprofessional.

Take buses number 352 and 750 for example. They are never on time. Sometimes 4 buses get here at the same time, all of them crowded. And next time you see a bus coming it'll be 40 mins later.

And another beijing bus nightmare: they don't tell you when and what bus line is gonna be canceled. Number 743, a pretty convenient line which connects all my friend's apts, was pulled out of the system without a word informed. I was waiting for that bus for half an hour for the bus sign was still up, then i finally asked some guy in yellow shirt working at the bus stop where the hell the bus went, he looked shocked and was like, stop waiting! 743 is gone for good! How am i supposed to know that line is gone. The sign was still there!

70% of the beijing buses are crowded 70 percent of the time during a day. and plus there are always chinese perverts trying to rub on you for some reason.

I have been taking beijing buses all my life and I hate it! subway is a little better but that long-arse distance to transfer and people jumping in front of the train are really pain in the arse.

Walking and bike are the best choices so far.

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biking is the best option here in beijing. you can go wherever, whenever you want to go. traffic is practically non-existent when you bike. i've never taken a bus to and from my office in my almost two years here in peking.

just cover yourself up pretty good this time of the year and you'll be fine.

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Fun fact:

There is a night bus from Tuanjiehu down to Guomao and out to the east 5th ring along Yaojiayuan Road. 214 is the name of the line, and it's how I commute to & from Sanlitun now. f*** taxis. f*** bikes. Got me a night bus, .4 to get home, I'm SET.

Don't live along that route? You have two choices. A) move, b) search for one of the other 13 night bus lines that goes by your house. Most of them pass somewhere in the inner city. Any 200 bus is your best friend at midnight. Empty and quick they are.

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Bus transport in Beijing is constantly improving. At the same time there are plenty of tired and jam-packed buses plying the crowded roads of the Chinese capital.

Fares are low and if you know where you are going (bus maps are available from roadside kiosks) or can read Chinese, buses can help you cover some of the city's vast distances - depending on traffic of course!

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it is horriable

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ALright, so I have searched all the obvious things like, "Beijing Bus Map" and "Beijing Bus Route" and "Beijing Bus Route Map" and all I get is crap. Tourist guides explaining fares, long distance bus companies, etc... Eventually I ended up in this thread.

I have just spent over 40mins on http://www.bjbus.com/home/map_section.php?uPageType=5
and yet I still can not find a SINGLE bus route. This page just gets stuck on "loading" anytime I search in either English or Chinese and if I zoom in to the neighbourhood where I want to catch my bus it doesn't show ANY bus routes.

Seriously, WTF!

Can anybody tell me how to get from WuDaoKou to ZhongGuanCun? It's not far at all and if Chinese websites and services could do anything right I am sure this would be about the first thing that they would succeed at. *sigh*

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Take bus 307 or 731 there and get off at Zhonguancun. I forgot exactly what the name of the stop is but I'm sure you can tell once you get close. 307 is usually crowded and it's a big bus with no air-condition. 731 is better, less crowded, air-conditioned.

To Loser King: I think your keyboard doesnt type letters, it types loneliness.

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NofA If your Chinese is good, try using baidu's map. http://map.baidu.com/
It's not bad, typing the first few pinyin letters get you a few drop-down choices of the address you want. Of course being able to type hanzi is best as you can get more precise location. From there you can opt to find ways to go to another destination by public transport.

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Ok, can find my place on map.baidu.com. And now? How do I find the buslines?

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