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The Rickshaw: Don't Go If You're Hungry

I went to the Rickshaw last night for dinner. It was my third time there, and I hadn't been there in several months. My friend and I sat downstairs around 6:30. We had first attempted to go to the Kro's Nest but they are still closed! Zaogao. We were sitting on the lower level near the restroom. I liked our waiter at first. It was clear that his English was bad but no matter we ordered in Chinese.

Upon reviewing the menu, I think it appears that they've removed several items from the menu. Didn't they used to serve pizza? I seem to remember pizza. It wasn't on the menu this time. We ordered mozzarella sticks, chips & salsa, a hamburger and Shepherd's Pie. I was confused by the menu description of the hamburger. It says that it has some chiles in it. I asked the waiter if I could get it without a the chiles and he just nodded. A few minutes later a female server came over and explained that the chiles are already ground into the meat. I tried asking a clarification question but her English was poor. I just shrugged and said it didn't matter.

We ordered water and the waiter wanted to know if we wanted it hot or cold. We said "hot." It was served with ice. Sigh...

The mozzarella sticks and chips & salsa were brought out. The mozzarella sticks looked beautiful but the taste was disappointing. I think the oil they use to fry them in must change the taste. The chips & salsa were adequate. Tim's on Flower Street offers a more authentic salsa. Then my hamburger was served. I threw some BBQ sauce on it and began eating. I felt bad that my friend's Shepherd Pie hadn't come but I was hungry. The hamburger was good, I'll say that. I especially liked the bun. It was so soft and almost sweet. (Confession: The meat gave me gas that evening AND this morning).

While we were waiting we witnessed an older pair of women (Russian? Greek?) who were having a heck of a time getting their food order straightened out. Finally, out of desperation they just asked for the check for their drinks and gave up on their food. They wanted out of here!

After about 20 minutes we called over our waiter. We asked him where the Shepherd's Pie was. He just smiled. He smiled all night. At first I would've thought he was being cocky or something. I realized later that he's a few cards short of a deck. I do know the employee's name (from the receipt). I won't name him here because it's NOT his fault. He's not competent. The person who should be embarrassed is whoever hired him!

I told the server I wanted to order the apple pie that was listed on the menu. Again, these items were ordered mostly in Chinese along with pointing at the menu. There should have been very little room for error.

To make an increasingly complicated incident shorter, about five minutes later the waiter brought over ANOTHER hamburger! It was the one I had already ordered and eaten. We told him "Bu dui!" We reminded him that we had ordered the Shepherd's Pie. He just smiled and took the hamburger back. He seemed rather confused about everything that was happening. I could tell even with the conversations he had with the female staff. It was so odd.

There seemed to be lots of confusion downstairs amongst the staff. Some of the female servers were going over and checking the computer. I don't know what the Hell was going on. My friend was so pissed off. Funny how hunger does that to a person!

Know what happened next? The waiter brought over the check! That was it. We weren't receiving the Shepherd's Pie or the apple pie. The bill was correct (mozzarella sticks, chips & salsa, hamburger). My friend and I just looked at each other and shrugged. Meanwhile another table of four who had come in were pleading with the wait staff to clean one of the tables. We paid our tab and took off, much like the women who had run out before us.

I said to my friend, "Well, they lost about 80RMB by not serving the Shepherd's Pie or the apple pie." He responded, "They lost a lot more than that; I'm never going back." Indeed.

Let me just insert a brief digression: why is the Rickshaw so popular with foreigners? Is it because it has the satellite access to the sports? Is that it? The place itself isn't that appealing and the food is mediocre at best. I have seen the owner before and he seems like a very friendly person. Aside from that, I don't "get" this place. Oh well.

Anyway, it was an extremely disappointing evening. I will say that the Rickshaw needs to improve the English level of the servers. Remember, most foreigners who will come here will NOT speak Chinese, and they come to these places and pay the higher prices for convenience.


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by my standards...a no class place...el diva...

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If your friend really wanted the shepherd's pie he should have screamed at the smiling f-er and gotten it.

This reminds me of "Bunny" in Platoon.

That smile was his way of laughing at you, Glenderful...you should have wasted him

Sin Loi, waiter man!!

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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otto wrote:
If your friend really wanted the shepherd's pie he should have screamed at the smiling f-er and gotten it.

No, we're not going to beg people to take our money. We went to another restaurant where they wanted to do business!

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should have clubbed him with the butt of his M-16 and torched the whole damn village!

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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ok, it's a bit of a cockfest but I feel I need to defend the place - I've been there loads of times recently and the service, food and atmosphere has been great!

Just because you had one bad experience you shouldn't be warning people to stay away. Instead of venting your frustrations on a forum, just get your cock sucked like everyone else.

The cyber stalker; having very poor social skills so that they may have a limited number or no friends, knowing no life outside of the Internet due to insecurities that make them fear the real world...
ouch!

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Glenderful wrote:

There should have been very little room for error.

you underestimate the clumsiness of some people here.

Glenderful wrote:

No, we're not going to beg people to take our money. We went to another restaurant where they wanted to do business!

it is not that Rickshaw did not want to, they are simply incapable

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One problem with that-

Glenderful is the suck-er, not the suck-ee

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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otto wrote:
One problem with that-

Glenderful is the suck-er, not the suck-ee

we'll soon put a stop to that, I think it's worth it to stem the tide of complaints from Mr Glenderful. One trip to Maggies and he'll be back on track...give generously forumites...

The cyber stalker; having very poor social skills so that they may have a limited number or no friends, knowing no life outside of the Internet due to insecurities that make them fear the real world...
ouch!

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Sorry to hear about your bad experience Glenderful. Why didn't you ask to speak to a manager?

There are times when food at the rickshaw can be less than a pleasing experience but that is when the place is jam packed usually, other than that, it's always been good.

Back to the manager thing, and this goes for every restaurant/bar, if you're having issues, speak to them about it. Give them at least a chance to correct the problem, especially at the 'Shaw.
Chad is extremely responsive to suggestions and criticisms alike and that is at least one of the things that keep me going back, I know they try harder than most places.

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Sometimes servers make mistakes.

See badr's post though. The Rickshaw has very responsive and adaptable management. I've had a few problems there with the service, but Chad or the other managers manage to get it sorted out and I always leave happy.

As far as the food, I love it. Never had a problem with it. IMO the best value-for-money on that kind of food in all of Beijing.

Glenderful, that's a really long long long post you wrote to complain. Are you sure your whine-o-meter is not set to 'hypersensitive'? Do you always get primo service everywhere you go in China?

For instance, I've had poor service, similar to your story, at Kro's too.

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I'd only order chicken wings there if I were you , I am not an expert on Mexican food, but Rob got it right, best value-for-money. :roll:

PS: in my office , everytime, my Chinese co-wokers try to talk to me with sentences combining CHinese and few English words, I let them f*** off . :roll:

Bottlenecking

Re: The Rickshaw: Don't Go If You're Hungry

Thinking about the Rickshaw before lunch is just making me hungry. I've always had a good time and good food there

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KZ wrote:
I'd only order chicken wings there if I were you , I am not an expert on Mexican food, but Rob got it right, best value-for-money. :roll:

PS: in my office , everytime, my Chinese co-wokers try to talk to me with sentences combining CHinese and few English words, I let them f*** off . :roll:

Good lad.

This is one of the things I hate most about Hong Kong, everyone there does this.

It's confusing and for some reason makes me incredibly angry.

How

Evil

Robots

Operate

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Glenderful

milquetoast scrub

looks/acts like his avatar

except the soap is a penis

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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i think, this is a general Chinese-foreigner issue. Chinese dont seem to get pissed off by incompetent waiters, they scream at them and then they get their food.. so i assume, chinese customers and chinese waiters get along. It happens to me all the time, that i order something, they write it down and then they dont bring it, and when i ask, they dont know what i am talking about. Thinking when youre hungry, this makes ou really angry. I guess its just different here. They dont really care about whether they are doing such a great job or not, not like in europe where the guest is king. and then, everyone knows they are not educated in the field and why should they speak english? People still go to the rickshaw, because it is cozy in there and you wanna stay a while, chinese places arent usually cozy.

I say: If you make this kind of experience in more than one place, just get used to it, cause it wont change so soon, and thats the way work in this country and appearantly they work okey. Or you can just get angry and get a heart attack and die.

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Obligatory post indicating that I and everyone I know have had all good experiences at Rickshaw.

"All cynicism masks a failure to cope...to despise all effort is the greatest effort of all." - John Fowles

"Reason is treason." - Kasabian

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they also have these huge vats of vodka tonic you can order.

Never tasted their food, but I smelled their nachos.

Kinda smelled like feet or a crowded Eastern european bus in august...but in a good way.

I think it was a special cumin they used

Everyone their is very "nice", so I'm surprised Glenderful didn't just melt into a gooey pool of sweetened lard the moment he walked in.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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sorry to hear that
but i ll back up the rest of the crowd
service can be difficult in china
but rickshaw s management is consistently working on it

and man, it has been a while since i ve had a strawberry daiquiri with a chicjken quesadilla .... mmm ... yum yum

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Large beef burrito and deluxe cheeseburger are winners at Rickshaw.

Also, I've received attentive service and good attitude from the waitstaff every time I've gone there.

Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.

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lunchtime the food comes quick

Perhaps happy hour best to order the quick-to-serve stuff

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Seriously, it's not like he slagged off your football team or anything, yet, predictably, you all descend on Glenderf*** like a pack of wolves.

Dude has a right to complain. It's not like this place is a non-whinyc u n t zone, is it?

If anyone complained about a bar I often frequented. Do you know what? Arsed.

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alex the droog wrote:

Seriously, it's not like he slagged off your football team or anything, yet, predictably, you all descend on Glenderf*** like a pack of wolves.

Dude has a right to complain. It's not like this place is a non-whinyc u n t zone, is it?

If anyone complained about a bar I often frequented. Do you know what? Arsed.

Alex, I love ewe, but stop posting porn

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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alex the droog wrote:

Seriously, it's not like he slagged off your football team or anything, yet, predictably, you all descend on Glenderf*** like a pack of wolves.

Dude has a right to complain. It's not like this place is a non-whinyc u n t zone, is it?

If anyone complained about a bar I often frequented. Do you know what? Arsed.

Sheep + Arsed - are you from Scotland or New Zealand?

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yeah, I've always had good service there but its not exactly inconceivable that this could happen.

Doesnt suprise me at all. Just a part of life here.
I give everywhere in China two chances....the service industry here is begining to get its act together though.

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That's funny. Ha. Ha. Ha.

You mean Wales.

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Just saw this thread, good to see that we have so many supporters.

Glenderful, please PM me the name of the guy who served you so that we can investigate the situation, if he is really as bad as you say he is then I wil make sure the owner hears about it. We do take these things very seriously.

Pizza was taken off the menu about 4 months ago because it wasn't popular. That is the only things that has changed.

The Sheppard's Pie does take a long time to cook as it is a dish about 8cm thick layered with mashed potato, beef and peas, more mashed potato and pastry, with a pot of gravy. The servers usually warn you when you order it that it will take around 20 minutes. Sorry that your server did not. But it seems in this case that he did not order it at all.

The Rickshaw runs on a POS (point of service) system. this means that the server uses a touch screen, taps your table and taps in the food you want and the receipt is printed out in the kitchen immediately. Therefor the ONLY point in the whole ordering procedure where a mistake can be made is during the ordering, a misunderstanding between server and customer.

I am sorry you had such a terrible time and I really do want to see this boy and his service abilities for myself. Please feel free to come into the rickshaw at any time and have a Sheppard's pie and a beer on me. I will leave a gift voucher for you at the bar if you like or PM me with a way to arrange it, if you are interested in giving us another try.

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otto wrote:
Alex, I love ewe, but stop posting porn

ftw

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FTW 4301 up, 1247 down

"For The Win."

An enthusiastic emphasis to the end of a comment, message, or post. Sometimes genuine, but often sarcastic.

can't keep up with you crazy kids and your net slang.

I thought it was a lame joke. Something Bruce Forsyth would say. Or Jeremy Beadle.

But, yeah, continue your Rickshaw circle jerk.

I f-ing hate that I'm sounding more septic-like by the day to get through to you people.

I'm joining the Rebel Alliance.

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alex the droog wrote:
Quote:
FTW 4301 up, 1247 down

"For The Win."

An enthusiastic emphasis to the end of a comment, message, or post. Sometimes genuine, but often sarcastic.

can't keep up with you crazy kids and your net slang.

I thought it was a lame joke. Something Bruce Forsyth would say. Or Jeremy Beadle.

But, yeah, continue your Rickshaw circle jerk.

I f***ing hate that I'm sounding more septic-like by the day to get through to you people.

I'm joining the Rebel Alliance.

I couldn't help it.

God what have I become. I need a scrap iron and lemon juice colonic, get things on an even keel again.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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I generally like the food at The Rickshaw and the staff is very friendly, but there are some persistent service problems, and these are amplified when someone from management isn't in the place. Here are three of numerous problems:

1) You are sitting at a table in the afternoon, tapping away on your laptop, and order a drink. When the staff brings it over, they will sometimes pass it OVER your keyboard when placing it on the table. I've seen the staff do this with glasses of water full to the rim and when there is clearly enough room on the near side of the computer to hold the glass.

2) Sometimes, if the place is crowded, I end up sharing a table with this or that other patron. Even if we arrived at different times, or don't know each other, the staff will put our orders on the same bill. Maybe it's due to their point of sales system, but it's still annoying.

By the way, I have talked to management about both of these issues, and especially the "water over the laptop" one, and they agree it's a problem and will look into it. These are both issues I have witnessed other patrons complaining about.

3) Half the staff cannot recall which table gets what order, even when the place has only a few customers. Last week, even though I was the only person who ordered food, someone brought my dish upstairs and took it to another table, to the surprise of the patrons there, oblivious that they should of brought it to me, the guy who ordered it less than five minutes ago. This happens a lot and I've seen it happen to and in front of one of the owners numerous times, who also was annoyed.

Having said that, the service has improved at The Rickshaw over the past six months, though it has a way to go.

Cheers, Boyce

PS By the way, I did have an experience identical to Glenderful's a few weeks ago. Our order was screwed up: one person at our table finished his meal, while another waited for a dish that came only after we asked the staff numerous times for it.

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