Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Best pizza in Beijing: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Discuss.
PS don't give me b.s. about how pizza's much better in Sicily or New York City. We aren't there.
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herojuana
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I've said this many times.
Kro's pizza is big and sloppy, great for fat people.
The Tree's pizza is crisp, thin and tasty, great for regular people.
Also Kro's Nest has irritating lao wai staff.
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Watson
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
The Kro's nest is just TOO MUCH for me.
I like to be able to actually feel ok after a meal, not feel like I have to waddle home because my stomach is so full and the grease is swirling around my stomach.
In the case of food, bigger is not always better
beerfest45
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Admin, you forgot to mention chicago style deep dish pizza (yeah like what you can find at uno's but only much much better).
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Sinister Dexter
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I prefer the thin style pizzas from Italy, or the deep pan pizzas you get in New York. Beijing can't compare.
Kro's tho, by a country mile. Better toppings, better cheese, better sauce, less belgium people walking around - wins on every front.
admin
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
grrr
do they deliver? via fed ex perhaps?
Toppings sometimes too abundant ... leading to sloppy, floppy crusts
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iCitizen
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
The Tree wins hands down. Kro's nest is ok if you miss bread but the laowai staff (including the owner) are annoying and its just not that good. To be honest, the Tree isnt that good either but I just dont like eating bread that much.
Dont get me wrong, I do like bread. Nice bit of toast is always tasty but a slab of bread that pretends to be a pizza is ridiculous.
I think they both have seperate customer bases anyway. There will always be the "high-fiving american" crowd to fill the Kro's Nest. Probably another reason not to go there I guess.
recrudesce
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
the 4 cheese pizza at the tree will always be the best ive ever had (including outside china) other pizzas at the tree are not as special but still good.
kros is good but only if you get a pizza without a billion toppings and only if you share a medium pizza between 3 people. I find that I want to go for a 3rd slice but if i do i totally regret it.
but the greek salad at the tree kicks ass and makes it a better place for a meal.
Tree Greek salad has perfect dressing, very little lettuce, lots of fetta and olives and big chunks of cucumber and tomatoes. The Kros Greek salad would be spit on by a greek person. It is all lettuce with a few other toppings and the wrong dressing.
but this is about pizza.
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spettro9
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I like Kro's pizza better and am kind of dismayed
that they are not doing slices anymore...
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Sinister Dexter
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Why do people keep mentioning the staff at kro's being annoying? In what way? I always thought they were all alright, got a number off one little singaporean chick there as well lol.what's the beef with kro? Ok he has a stupid name/hairstyle/face but he always seemed like a good guy to me.
Okay, i agree that sometimes they suffer from a weaker center on their larger pizzas, but what red blooded male here can deny that sometimes it's just good to shove your face in a sloppy pie? Not I.
The peperoni pizzas they do are perfect. And the mighty meat, with steak and meatballs on it plus every other type of meat you could fantasise about.
I've never understood why people rate the tree, the pizzas there are pretty average in my opinion. Peter Pan, Hutong Pizza, Vineyard Cafe and O Solo Mio all do better pizzas than the tree. Dunno why people rate it so much...
aier
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Trees base is bland.., toppings are the same. Nothing wrong with a thin base....but the base at The Tree is about as exciting as toast, but toast is nicer.
Kros toppings don't taste like they spent the last 3 months of their life in air tight packaging at the back of some shelf. and the the whole thing is bigger and messier...the way a pizza should be, the Tree's isn't bad....but the whole affair is a bit too civilized.
admin
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
damn this thread is making me hungry. I think I'll go to Origus.
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herojuana
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
You sick bastard.
Make sure you get the pizza with raisins on it.
I used to live basically beside the Origus in Andingmen, after trying it one time it was very, very easy to never enter that shithole again.
The stuff they serve doesn't even deserve to be called "pizza".
I suppose I must give Kro's Nest another try, Kro himself is nice but I distinctly remember being annoyed by a phony, grinning lao wai idiot waiter/host.
Kro knows how to say hi then move on, this guy was just hovering around our table like a mook, needless to say I was having visions of stabbings dancing through my head.
But Kro's is not like The Tree, where you can go out drinking afterwards.
Like Watson says most times you leave Kro's feeling rather bloated.
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Watson
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
The best thing about Origus is watching all the little emperor's act like pigs to the trough.....
Glenderful
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I prefer the Kro's Nest, but I agree with the comments about the staff. Way too much attitude and not good service.
Watson
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Even though I voted for the Tree, I actually ended up at the Kro's nest last night. Their pizza is actually good, it's just I can only eat 2 slices and am feeling the carb overload this morning
And the service was good, no complaints about it. It will be nice when the weather gets nice and they use that outside area
badr
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I still don't think it's fair to compare the two. The pizza style is completely and it comes down to personal taste. Thin vs. thick crust, simple vs. overloaded.
I've eaten at Kro's twice and I like their wudaokou branch a lot better than the gongti one. It's a completely different atmosphere.
I've also eaten at the Tree a few times and hated their pizza until i tried the 4 cheese there. And Recrudesce is right, they do a mean 4 cheese pizza
so I'll put it as a tie. It just depends on what i'm looking for that day/night
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Glenderful
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I agree about the Wudaokou location of the Kro's Nest. It has more character and is brighter and more fun. The Gongti location makes me feel like I'm entering an S&M dungeon or something. The design is real strange.
jetblack
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I vote the tree - just cant do the heavy heavy deal. I do like Pizza Buona - really quite cheap and always deliver in under 30mins. And the phone operators understand your order first time 'round - gotta love that. Yum.. pizza...
henry
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The Tree is a great place to eat. Always full with a good atmosphere.
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NateM
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I thought the Tree was better in terms of quality, but Kro's was a better place for a group, (I've only had the 4 Cheese at the tree, though, which seems to be their strong point from the posts here). In terms of service, I thought both did a pretty good job. The last time I was at Kro's, they screwed up my order (a calzone), and instead brought me a large pizza, (a sloppy "C" and a sloppy "L" look pretty similar, I guess). They both gave me the pizza at the calzone price and also offered to give me a calzone for free as well. As I had an interview and didn't feel all that comfortable carrying around 10 kilos of pizza/calzone, I just satisfied myself with munching 1/3 of the way through the pizza.
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Mencius95
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I like the pizza at The Den. It is small but tasty.
maria_bj
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Kro's is the Best!
P.s. (western) staff there is really cute too.
I don't understand what some people are mumbling here..
crasian
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Why would you eat pizza at the Den?? Why would you anything at the Den for that matter??? The only thing it use to be good for is Russian whores but now they got rid of those, its not good for anything! Out of all the good/bad places in Beijing, the Den is one that would not be missed. In fact, I detest that place.
spettro9
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
be quiet
the pizza is nice, and I voted for Kro's
only thing is it's too small....
and
HOW CAN YOU BEAT 30 rmb pints of KILKENNY AND GUINESS at HAPPY HOUR 5-10 EVERY DAY???!?!?!????????? IN BEIJING?????????????
if you ask me, that kinda ROCKS!!!
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saravk
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I went to the Kro's at Gongti this weekend and came out a little disappointed. Their buffalo wings were too spicy without any flavor (had to add a lot of salt to it) and the pizza (medium spicy italian) had too little toppings on it and they were dry and crispy as well.
Haven't been to the Tree yet (this time), but i always remember it being pretty good and you cant beat their beer selection there. So my vote for the tree.
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Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
voting is deadlocked
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Son of Blitzer
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
I just un-deadlocked it with a vote for Kro's.
I hadn't had both until fairly recently.
The Tree is pretty good, but I prefer gimongous, greasy pies.
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Count_zero
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Kro's an interesting character. He has his fingers in a lot of pies in Beijing, you know.
I believe he is involved in management and consultation of quite a few restaurants.
He's only in his early twenties too.
And he taught himself Chinese whilst on a short visit here as a teenager.
Though some of the claims he makes himself are a little dubious - such as having been swindled out of over a million dollars in a pizza venture in the US.
I like the way he deals with Worker's Stadium price fixing. They told him mixed drinks had to be 60 RMB so he made them ridiculously strong. They told him he would have to raise drinks prices further so he said "ok" and just forgot to do it.
What was the question again?
gypsymale
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Why are we only allowed to choose between these 2? Just ate at The Tree after hearing for months how it is "the best pizza in Beijing" and was seriously disappointed. Had great beers there, but the pizza was really average, complete with a doughy, chewy crust! I get better pizza from Casa Mia located right next door to my apartment. Not sure how The Tree ever got its tag of being so great. It's not even a restaurant. It's basically a bar that has a pizza oven. Kro's is pretty good, but can we please look beyond these two? And if they are all we have as the "best in Beijing" well then that's just a sorry state of affairs!!!
beerfest45
Re: Pizza Death Match: Kro's Nest or The Tree?
Kro's Pizza is disgusting - why do you guys like it?
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