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Spouse Visa Rule Changes?

Hi Guys,

My first post here after lurking for a while!

I got married to a Beijing Hukou'er in Sept 07 and till now have still been my original F-visa. After a trip overseas I got a double-entry L visa in Hong Kong valid through July 1st. I am a full UK-passport holder.

Does anyone know how long I can get at the Beijing Entry and Exit bureau for a family visit these days? We have all the hukou book, marriage registrations etc etc.

Also does it make a difference if I have a two entry visa - will they say "use that up first and come back".

I have heard that I will be issued 3-month, extendable 3-months, but that was before the olympic madness chronicled in this forum.

Any recent spouse visa applicants out there who can give me an update??

PS. I know the easiest thing would be to go and ask, but I am outside Beijing and will need to travel to Beijing for just this purpose.


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Being married to a Chinese girl, my last 3 visas have each been 1 year 'L' multiple entry visas.
Each application form was ticked, 'visiting family'.
My current visa expires in July, but from the recent press it seems those with 'family' here should have no problem.
In saying that, as you say, with the recent madness, anything is possible.
I reckon until July you could probably still use your current visa but just be sure to have a copy of your marriage certificate to hand at all times.

Good luck with it.

Keep passing the open windows.

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Hi SinoGeek,

Thanks for the info...we live in interesting times...

Did you get the visa same day or did it take ten days? - I have heard two stories both from a few years ago...I only ask because I will have to stay in Beijing for however long the process takes - with my inlaws!!!

Keep strummin'
GuitarGuy

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GuitarGuy wrote:
Did you get the visa same day or did it take ten days?

Every one of the 3 visas took exactly 7 days.
Not working days. 7 days from the receipt of the application.
Apply on a Friday - come back next Friday.
Every time no problem.
Must say though, I'm a little concerned about having to go again next time.
It'll be interesting to see how we both get on.

Keep passing the open windows.

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7 days is fine...the inlaws just about drive me mental around day 5 so its only two days of madness to endure.

Any recent applicants care to share??/

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GuitarGuy wrote:
7 days is fine...the inlaws just about drive me mental around day 5 so its only two days of madness to endure.

Any recent applicants care to share??/

A friend of mine just applied. Exactly 7 days. And exactly one year. Seems that this policy is one of the few that still remains intact.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

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Quote:
I got married to a Beijing Hukou'er...

When you say this to people back home, do you get a shocked look?

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@gdbill

Thanks for update - I hope it all goes as smoothly for me

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croozn wrote:
Quote:
I got married to a Beijing Hukou'er...

When you say this to people back home, do you get a shocked look?

Hahaha...

Seems like it's pronounced "hookow'er"

Is that like a Boston accent? No way.

Polish?

Honesty

Empathy

Respect

Open-mindedness

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no change -- one year M entry.

Black, White, Yellow... don't we all have red blood?!! ...or blue occasionally -- in women's TV ads...

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is it possible to change an F visa to an L visa?

If not, can you still get an L visa in Hong Kong?

I'm married to a Chinese woman with an F visa that's almost up and, like most foreigners now here that I know, am trying to find some way of renewing my visa without flying back to the US.

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Change your F to a family L is generally easy to get for one year with multiple entries. I just renewed mine. As said before, it take 7 days. You go on Thursday, you come back the next Thursday. Price of 940yuan for an American. Bring your passport and originals and photcopies of your marriage certificate, spouse's hukuo, spouse's ID card, and your temporary resident permit and you should be good to go. The application does ask your occupation etc, so you need to remember that you are not supposed to work under this classification, so please be guided accordingly.

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expat13 wrote:
Change your F to a family L is generally easy to get for one year with multiple entries. I just renewed mine. As said before, it take 7 days. You go on Thursday, you come back the next Thursday. Price of 940yuan for an American. Bring your passport and originals and photcopies of your marriage certificate, spouse's hukuo, spouse's ID card, and your temporary resident permit and you should be good to go. The application does ask your occupation etc, so you need to remember that you are not supposed to work under this classification, so please be guided accordingly.

That sounds great. Where do I go? And what do I answer for my occupation? Stay at home husband?

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SUCCESS! Just got all this done yesterday, thanks for all the advice gained here.

Queues at the Lama Temple visa office were around 2 hours - arrived at 10:30 and was seen to at 12:30 - they do work over lunch but with less windows open.

1 year multiple - 1400 RMB and change for UK passport...Acceptable considering the other options!!!

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Is the UK fee higher than USA? I just paid 940 for a 1 year multiple entry.

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could anyone comment on whether or not F visas can change to L visas now? I'm planning to go on Monday (it's that office between Yonghegong and Dongzhimen on the second ring road, right?).

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That's the right place, yes.

To my information, yes, you can change your F to that special spouse L visa right now in Beijing. And if they ask what you do, "working" is surely not the right answer - so go for anything, husband at home, taking care of your newborn, learning calligraphy, whatever!

Good luck!

FXZL - Up-to-date visa Information for China
fxzl.blogspot.com

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Has anyone gotten a visa for a foreign spouse in China? I have a Z visa and want to get a spouse visa attached to that for my girl. I have done some reading up on it and I know that it is (or at least as possible).

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Yes, your wife, as well as you children, can get a family Z visa at the PSB. I know this attached visa was previously issued to unmarried couples, too (under special circumstances), but now it has been limited to married couples. Your employing company will need to approve of the additional Z visa, and you'll have to provide your marriage certificate.

FXZL - Up-to-date visa Information for China
fxzl.blogspot.com

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coeurdelion wrote:
That's the right place, yes.

To my information, yes, you can change your F to that special spouse L visa right now in Beijing. And if they ask what you do, "working" is surely not the right answer - so go for anything, husband at home, taking care of your newborn, learning calligraphy, whatever!

Good luck!

Or studying, retired, anything but a job that you are doing

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coeurdelion wrote:
Yes, your wife, as well as you children, can get a family Z visa at the PSB. I know this attached visa was previously issued to unmarried couples, too (under special circumstances), but now it has been limited to married couples. Your employing company will need to approve of the additional Z visa, and you'll have to provide your marriage certificate.

Cheers

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sorry to be more bothers and more questions..
but can i do this from outside the country?
...see i been in china for a year, extending visa without leaving so told i have to leave the country to get new visa....so probably i cant change to the family one in the country right since i cant get other new visas without leaving?
so when i in vietnam i can probably get the family one as easily as i could in beijing right??
Thinking
i could try to do it in bj before i leave, and maybe i will, but i really dont wanna line up for 2hours then they say they cant extend anyway because i been here a year
..aiyo, or get a L visa outside, come back, then switch to family???

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johnnybigstar wrote:
sorry to be more bothers and more questions..
but can i do this from outside the country?
...see i been in china for a year, extending visa without leaving so told i have to leave the country to get new visa....so probably i cant change to the family one in the country right since i cant get other new visas without leaving?
so when i in vietnam i can probably get the family one as easily as i could in beijing right??
Thinking
i could try to do it in bj before i leave, and maybe i will, but i really dont wanna line up for 2hours then they say they cant extend anyway because i been here a year
..aiyo, or get a L visa outside, come back, then switch to family???

You do not have to leave the country to get the spousal L visa. Also, you cannot get this visa outside of CHina. You can only get it once inside China.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

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gdbill wrote:
You do not have to leave the country to get the spousal L visa. Also, you cannot get this visa outside of CHina. You can only get it once inside China.

Ok ok ok everybody. Let's not start saying things unless we know what we're talking about.

I just went to the visa place and they will not change an F visa to a spousal L visa in China. At least they can't do it right now. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY (出境). So let's be careful about what we say unless we're specific about it.

I want to know if going to Hong Kong counts. And I want to hear from somebody who has done this RECENTLY and, hopefully, can speak in detail about the kinds of visas you have, want to change to, etc.

My wife's 8 months pregnant and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go to America just to get a visa before my baby's born.

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gooldenwending wrote:
gdbill wrote:
You do not have to leave the country to get the spousal L visa. Also, you cannot get this visa outside of CHina. You can only get it once inside China.

Ok ok ok everybody. Let's not start saying things unless we know what we're talking about.

I just went to the visa place and they will not change an F visa to a spousal L visa in China. At least they can't do it right now. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY (出境). So let's be careful about what we say unless we're specific about it.

I want to know if going to Hong Kong counts. And I want to hear from somebody who has done this RECENTLY and, hopefully, can speak in detail about the kinds of visas you have, want to change to, etc.

My wife's 8 months pregnant and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go to America just to get a visa before my baby's born.

Not true.

You can call the PSB and they claim what you say is false.

Or better yet, go there and try it. I went last week with a friend and today he picked up his 1-year L visa based on marriage with a Chinese national. He is American.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

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gdbill wrote:
gooldenwending wrote:
gdbill wrote:
You do not have to leave the country to get the spousal L visa. Also, you cannot get this visa outside of CHina. You can only get it once inside China.

Ok ok ok everybody. Let's not start saying things unless we know what we're talking about.

I just went to the visa place and they will not change an F visa to a spousal L visa in China. At least they can't do it right now. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY (出境). So let's be careful about what we say unless we're specific about it.

I want to know if going to Hong Kong counts. And I want to hear from somebody who has done this RECENTLY and, hopefully, can speak in detail about the kinds of visas you have, want to change to, etc.

My wife's 8 months pregnant and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go to America just to get a visa before my baby's born.

Not true.

You can call the PSB and they claim what you say is false.

Or better yet, go there and try it. I went last week with a friend and today he picked up his 1-year L visa based on marriage with a Chinese national. He is American.

gdbill. I'm sure that you're well intentioned here, but I'm wondering if you read my post where I said, I WENT THERE THIS MORNING MYSELF AND TRIED IT. One look at the F visa and they said that they couldn't do it (because it was an F visa. She specifically mentioned if I had a Z visa it would be okay) and had to leave the country. I'm also American.

So, I'm asking specifically about CHANGING AN F VISA TO AN L SPOUSAL VISA.

What visa did your friend have originally?

Or, why don't YOU call the PSB and see what they say. Specifically mention an F visa for an American citizen married to a Chinese wanting to change it to a spousal L visa. If they tell YOU that it's okay, write down the person's name and I'm calling them tomorrow.

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You should go to HK tomorrow, get a 30 day multi entry L-Visa - you can be back in China by Thursday. It will tide you over until your baby's born, then you can see what your options are.

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gooldenwending wrote:
gdbill wrote:
gooldenwending wrote:
gdbill wrote:
You do not have to leave the country to get the spousal L visa. Also, you cannot get this visa outside of CHina. You can only get it once inside China.

Ok ok ok everybody. Let's not start saying things unless we know what we're talking about.

I just went to the visa place and they will not change an F visa to a spousal L visa in China. At least they can't do it right now. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY (出境). So let's be careful about what we say unless we're specific about it.

I want to know if going to Hong Kong counts. And I want to hear from somebody who has done this RECENTLY and, hopefully, can speak in detail about the kinds of visas you have, want to change to, etc.

My wife's 8 months pregnant and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go to America just to get a visa before my baby's born.

Not true.

You can call the PSB and they claim what you say is false.

Or better yet, go there and try it. I went last week with a friend and today he picked up his 1-year L visa based on marriage with a Chinese national. He is American.

gdbill. I'm sure that you're well intentioned here, but I'm wondering if you read my post where I said, I WENT THERE THIS MORNING MYSELF AND TRIED IT. One look at the F visa and they said that they couldn't do it (because it was an F visa. She specifically mentioned if I had a Z visa it would be okay) and had to leave the country. I'm also American.

So, I'm asking specifically about CHANGING AN F VISA TO AN L SPOUSAL VISA.

What visa did your friend have originally?

Or, why don't YOU call the PSB and see what they say. Specifically mention an F visa for an American citizen married to a Chinese wanting to change it to a spousal L visa. If they tell YOU that it's okay, write down the person's name and I'm calling them tomorrow.

He had an F visa that he obtained in Hong Kong last year and had renewed once in Beijing.

I did call. You can change any visa into a spousal L as long as you meet the requirements.

There's probably some other factor unique to your case that you don't realize or otherwise fail to mention.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

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gdbill wrote:
He had an F visa that he obtained in Hong Kong last year and had renewed once in Beijing.

I did call. You can change any visa into a spousal L as long as you meet the requirements.

There's probably some other factor unique to your case that you don't realize or otherwise fail to mention.

You called them today? Who did you speak to? I'll call them and talk to them about it.

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okay, I DID call them just now. I can't change an F visa to a spousal L visa without first leaving the country (出境). I've been confirmed once in person and once on phone on this one and so I'm pretty certain I'm going to believe that you can't change an F visa to an L visa right now.

The woman was nice and said that Hong Kong counts as leaving the country (出境). She wasn't sure what the situation was there with visas however. It sounds like it's fairly okay to get a 30-day L visa right now though, so I think I'm gonna go for it. L can be changed to the spousal L visa according to the woman I spoke to.

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