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What do you think about sex on a first date?

agree? disagree? opinions on the post appreciated!

A new study shows that refusing to sleep with a partner on the first date could be one of the keys to making a successful match.

Researchers used a mathematical model to show that more reliable men were willing to wait longer before having sex for the first time.
By contrast, less suitable men were not as likely to continue dating.

Professor Robert Seymour, from University College London (UCL), who created the model, said: "Longer courtship is a way for the female to acquire information about the male. "By delaying mating, the female is able to reduce the chance that she will mate with a bad male.

"A male's willingness to court for a long time is a signal that he is likely to be a good male.

"Long courtship is a price paid for increasing the chance that mating, if it occurs, will be a harmonious match which benefits both sexes. This may help to explain the commonly held belief that a woman is best advised not to sleep with a man on a first date."

Dr Peter Sozou, from Warwick Medical School and LSE Centre for Philosophy of Natural and Social Science, who helped to construct the model, warned that the strategy was not foolproof.


Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Well, to me it seems obvious: sex as soon as possible!

Memento Audere Semper

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

I used to think that rule about how girls shouldn't sleep with a guy on the first date was b.s.... and that it didn't change anything because it only mattered what kind of guy and girl and what kind of connection they had..... that is, until I came to China.

Now I've seen and experienced the truth: if the girl gives it up too fast, the chase is ruined and the game is done. A girl who makes me work really hard for it, on the other hand.... She's my shipoopi.

There are too many a-holes like me in China. I even usually advise my female friends to wait on sex if they really like the guy (haha, I apologize to the guys on the other end, but hey, if they're not serious about him they can have fun all they want Tongue). And then when they don't listen, they wonder why he's all of a sudden acting distant and what happened to that "special connection" she thought they had.

Sometimes I feel it is maybe unbearable always be traditional Chinese girl.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

chinaryan wrote:

Remmy be pimpin' in BJ, yo!

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

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Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Good male, bad male.. The researchers used a mathematical model for god's sake!

Let me break it down, Shizo style.

Dating = mating. So all these deodorants, buying drinks, showing off and courting have one common goal - f***ing. The only thing that separates us from the animals and getting right down to it on the floor is the complex system of social interaction that we've developed (because we are intelligent like that and blow dolphins, crows and monkeys out of the water!). Therefore, just do what you feel the nature is calling you to do. Some people are guided purely by their instincts/emotions and are up for one-nighters, etc. While others are awesome and intelligent like the aforementioned researchers and myself. We need something more meaningful to satisfy our complex brains. But either way, it is fine by me.

PS: The horny ass researchers who were about to angrily disagree with me need not do so, as mine was a mere generalization. However most researchers are geeks and nerds so STFU!

Peace! >:D<

It's better to be nice, kind, generous, friendly, helpful, sexy and rich than to be obnoxious, scary, stinky, stingy, lonely and poor.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Hold on...I thought it was either/or!

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

I hope no girls read this post! B)

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

another thesis subject for class. Do your own research - in the library or better still buy some adult magazines (shock, horror, naked bodies).

Do we represent a 'good cross-section of the expat community in a major city'? I doubt it, but no-one will know I suppose, and it might be quoted as an authorative work sometime in the future.

To quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

New Year - New Hat.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

I demand to sleep with Chinese girls on the first date because I don't want to be used for money/free English.

However, for all other nationalities, I am willing to wait.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

I'd say a girl who gives it up so easily is probably going to slip a few steps down on the girlfriendpotential ladder, if not completely off it. It's probably just me but I think I would always have this kinda feeling that she might have done it too many times before and there is an increased risk she might go and do it again with some other guy she just met. I know this is sexist talk but I am just being honest sorry.

(Brian starts singing)
Stewie : Hey, who sings that song?
Brian: James Taylor.
Stewie: Let's keep it that way.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

i think it's a great idea

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

It's the 21st century now so if you don't have sex on the first date, then you've probably done something wrong. Perhaps, you can rethink your approach and correct your mistakes...So I hear, but I wouldn't know what to do.

Bench 400 or die trying.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Having sex on a first date is not a good idea unless what you want is just to get laid, and you don't think the guy is a bf material and has no long-term potential. Sex complicates things, just make sure not to develop any attachment, it's easier said than done from a woman's prospective though. women are different from men.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

perfectfit wrote:
Having sex on a first date is not a good idea unless what you want is just to get laid, and you don't think the guy is a bf material and has no long-term potential. Sex complicates things, just make sure not to develop any attachment, it's easier said than done from a woman's prospective though. women are different from men.

that was very profound.

please grace us with more of your wisdom.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

In my opinion everyone is different as is every situation. I think in general sleeping with a guy on the first date usually nixes potential future relations beyond sex. Being a foreign female in China is rough when it comes to dating. It seems that a majority of Chinese men view foreign woman as being "easy" and as soon as they are invited into your apt they think you have said yes to sex. There are certainly cultural differences, but I think if everyone just viewed each other as individual people rather than by race then maybe just maybe we could get to really know one another. As frustrating as it is this is my advice to guys who want to get some on the first date. If you are going to be a prick and just f*** her and never call again at least be a real man and give her a great orgasm.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

concha wrote:
perfectfit wrote:
Having sex on a first date is not a good idea unless what you want is just to get laid, and you don't think the guy is a bf material and has no long-term potential. Sex complicates things, just make sure not to develop any attachment, it's easier said than done from a woman's prospective though. women are different from men.

that was very profound.

please grace us with more of your wisdom.

Don't think anything I wrote is "profound". Women are different from men, plain and simple.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

who cares why do women rate their pussies as though though they
they were filled with gold or diamond mines? pussy is overated.Most of the women I have had on the first date are also the same ones which have lasted the longest.No matter if a woman saves herself for the second date
sex will come either way!I have met a lot of girls here who are just wet
dripping wet for sex on the first date they even rip off my clothes and say f*** me now please!!!!so u guys are wasting your time on this post sex on the first date is is as sweet as sex with an ex!

I came I saw I conquered...veni vidi vici!

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Oh god, pleeeease guys, don't believe this crap. We ladies like it, neeeeed it, just as much as you. It's just that sometimes we let our hearts and minds overule what we're hungering for.

It's all this feminist hogwash that we've been fed since the old days, that leads us to believe that's what is expected of us. So we put our needs aside, and put on this show for you, thinking that it is what you want of us. God, give me the sixties and seventies again. We were free to be ourselves, and get our fill of life too. I believe its cyclic, it'll come round again, sooner than later I hope.

And the most fulfilling relationships I've had, are when we both just think of our own needs. Don't worry, he'll look after no.1. No pretences, know what I mean.

In the mean time, I have to deal with Stevies mind leaving us high and dry (well, hot and bothered) while we wait until it's acceptable to get it on. Please, next time you buy us a drink, make it a sneaky double.

willowwoo wrote:
just f*** her and never call again at least be a real man and give her a great orgasm.

“Do I lose his respect for being so wild?...... Hardly.
He treats me like a rare and prescious jewel”

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Caligula wrote:
who cares why do women rate their pussies as though though they
they were filled with gold or diamond mines? pussy is overated.Most of the women I have had on the first date are also the same ones which have lasted the longest.No matter if a woman saves herself for the second date
sex will come either way!I have met a lot of girls here who are just wet
dripping wet for sex on the first date they even rip off my clothes and say f*** me now please!!!!so u guys are wasting your time on this post sex on the first date is is as sweet as sex with an ex!

bobby27???

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

If obey all the rules of dating or SEX, you will miss the fun.
I think there's a will and there's a need for the dating thing, it takes two to tango right, go with your feelings. I believe sex on first date doesnt sound bad for most of girls either. But when it comes to Chinese guy dating Chinese girl, things could be different.

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I like a girl that knows what she wants.
I went to a girls house on the second date and stayed for 3 yrs, we are still freinds to this day. so sex dont matter but if its no good than good bye, i want it all.
the one that makes you wait 2 months, those are the crazy ones,
I have a scar on my back from a hatchet from that one.she must
have had some indian in her,I was running away and she hit me at 10 meters dead on.love really hurts sometimes,oh she was from venezuela, lucky i still got my dingaling.

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act
- George Orwell

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

WHITE WOMEN:

First date:
You get to kiss her goodnight.
Second date:
You get to grope all over and make out a bit.
Third date:
You get to have sex but only in the missionary position.

IRISH WOMEN:

First Date:
You both get blind drunk and have sex.
Second Date:
You both get blind drunk and have sex.
20th Anniversary:
You both get blind drunk and have sex.

ITALIAN WOMEN:

First Date:
You take her to a play and an expensive restaurant.
Second Date:
You meet her parents and her Mom makes spaghetti & meatballs.
Third Date:
You have sex, she wants to marry you & insists on a 3-carat ring.
5th Anniversary:
You already have 5 kids together & hate the thought of having sex.
6th Anniversary:
You find yourself a Mistress.

CHINESE WOMEN:

First date:
You get to buy her an expensive dinner but nothing happens.
Second date:
You buy her an even more expensive dinner. Nothing happens again.
Third date:
You don't even get to the third date and you've already realized nothing
is ever going to happen.

INDIAN WOMEN:

First date:
Meet her parents.
Second date:
Set the date of the wedding.
Third date:
Wedding n! ight.

BLACK WOMEN:

First Date:
You get to buy her a real expensive dinner.
Second Date:
You get to buy her and her girlfriends a real expensive dinner.
Third Date:
You get to pay her rent.
Tenth Date:
She's pregnant by someone other than you.

MEXICAN WOMEN:

First Date:
You buy her an expensive dinner, get drunk on Tequila, and have sex in
the back of her car.
Second Date:
She's pregnant. < BR>Third Date:
She moves in. One week later, her mother, father, his girlfriend, her
two sisters, her brother, all of their kids, her grandma, her father's
girlfriend's mother, her two cousins, her sister's boyfriend and his
three kids move in and you live on rice and beans for the rest of your
life in your home that used to be nice, but now looks like a home along
the Tijuana strip.

ARAB WOMEN:

First Date:
Mother, Father, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, Friends and entire Arab community finds out.
Second Date:
Guy is shot dead.
No third date!!!

LEBANESE WOMEN:

First Date:
You will have to spend all your money to impress
Second Date:
You will take a loan to keep the image
Third Date :
Your are broke, she finds someone wealthier

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Talking about sex on the internet is like dancing to architecture on a trampoline.

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

Quote:
ARAB WOMEN:

First Date:
Mother, Father, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, Friends and entire Arab community finds out.
Second Date:
Guy is shot dead.
No third date!!!

Helloooo!! Honor killing, she gets acid thrown on her and beaten to death.

They only come up to your knees

um harry, u can be fat and be anorexic. - BeijingDays

Re: What do you think about sex on a first date?

You mean putting out easily makes guys think you are not serious relationship potential!?! HOLY sh*t! Who knew?! Maybe next they can work on other fascinating questions like Why girls with big breasts get more guys staring at them or why I'm driven to approach hot girls in short mini-skirts.

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