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Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

English teaching is still the most popular job for foreigners in China, according to the third Job Fair for Foreigners in Beijing on Saturday.

About 80 per cent of some 400 foreigners who attended the fair were looking for jobs such as teachers or language polishers.

And the majority of some 500 positions offered at the fair fell into exactly that category.

Unlike some who come to China to mess around and see teaching as a way to earn extra money, the majority of foreigners at the fair were very serious about their careers.

Luann Gronhovd from North Dakota, the United States, has just received her master's degree in education in the US. She came to Beijing to teach two months ago. Explaining her choice of destination, she said: "China is a country I already know and have always loved."

With two-year experience teaching English at Sichuan Normal University, Luann appeared a little bit picky. "I'm looking for a school that has a good teaching environment and qualified staff," she said. "I think these are something every responsible teacher should be looking for. Money is important, but not the most important."

Some foreign teachers in China are not well qualified, she said, a fact confirmed by Yang Changju, director of the cultural and educational experts department of the State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs.

"Some foreign teachers have very poor qualifications," he said. "And some schools employ foreign English teachers not because they want to improve their English teaching level but just to attract more students."

Yang told China Daily that the bureau will jointly work with the Ministry of Education to set up a qualification system for foreign English teachers in China to better regulate the market.

No specific date or regulation has yet been made.

Bureau figures indicate that about 260,000 foreigners are currently working in China, but these are only those in stable jobs.

They usually work as consultants or managers of big construction projects, technical staff, senior managers in international or joint-venture companies, or language teachers and polishers.

"English teaching positions are still very popular, especially for those without a strong technical background," Yang said, adding that the number of foreign English teachers stood at 60,000, excluding those in part-time jobs.

The growing number of foreign experts did not necessarily add pressure to the existing white-hot domestic job market, Yang said, because "they usually take jobs that we Chinese are unable to do."

Source: China Daily


Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

hope the below wont heppan again, at lest you are a teacher, your students are kids. remember teacher is a carrer with glory in china.

oh my

http://news.163.com/09/0327/04/55CSRECA00011229.html

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

hope the below wont heppan again, at lest you are a teacher, your students are kids. remember teacher is a carrer with glory in china.

oh my

http://news.163.com/09/0327/04/55CSRECA00011229.html

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

I think most teaching employers are unqualified in China. Fix the employers and i'm sure there will be qualified teachers coming here.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

i wanna be a teacher Silly

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act
- George Orwell

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

What the f*** is a language polisher?

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Someone who gives native *bleep*s?

Hell is for people who don't piss the bed before they die.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Reminds me of some countryside wisdom - "You can't polish a turd."

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Most employers hire the non-native speaker over the qualified, degree-holding Native speaker because they can pay the former less. The school I work at now is great in that all the foreigners here have teaching experience in their home countries and we all hold bachelor degrees or higher. But in Beijing, the company I worked for that transferred me here, hired an African to take my place for only 5,000 a month. I don't know which country he hailed from but his English was spoken with a thick accent and his grammar would be an IELST level 4. I asked my boss why she would hire him since her English was better than his, but she just warned me not to tell him how much I got paid.

I think they should use an American teacher or a Westerner who is a professional educator to screen the teachers like Network ESL does. They don't accept just anyone but have a professional interview and screen them as well as conduct a background check on their documents.

If you're going to be two-faced, at least make one of them good looking.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Owynne wrote:
Most employers hire the non-native speaker over the qualified, degree-holding Native speaker because they can pay the former less. The school I work at now is great in that all the foreigners here have teaching experience in their home countries and we all hold bachelor degrees or higher. But in Beijing, the company I worked for that transferred me here, hired an African to take my place for only 5,000 a month. I don't know which country he hailed from but his English was spoken with a thick accent and his grammar would be an IELST level 4. I asked my boss why she would hire him since her English was better than his, but she just warned me not to tell him how much I got paid.

I think they should use an American teacher or a Westerner who is a professional educator to screen the teachers like Network ESL does. They don't accept just anyone but have a professional interview and screen them as well as conduct a background check on their documents.

Why would a school replace good teachers, regardless of how much money they can save? The student's satisfaction has something to do with the business of making money here, right? Perhaps, they just don't like you...

Hell is for people who don't piss the bed before they die.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

attitudeisevrything wrote:
hope the below wont heppan again, at lest you are a teacher, your students are kids. remember teacher is a carrer with glory in china.

oh my

http://news.163.com/09/0327/04/55CSRECA00011229.html

Can you do a short translation summary for us?

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Owynne wrote:
Why would a school replace good teachers, regardless of how much money they can save? The student's satisfaction has something to do with the business of making money here, right? Perhaps, they just don't like you...

because it is cheap and chinese biz people only care about making money no matter if they sell cheap english training or melamine contamintated baby milk.

wake up, china is the most degenerated incarnation of capitalism ever to show in this world, they would do anything for a few bucks

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

specialguy wrote:
Owynne wrote:
Why would a school replace good teachers, regardless of how much money they can save? The student's satisfaction has something to do with the business of making money here, right? Perhaps, they just don't like you...

because it is cheap and chinese biz people only care about making money no matter if they sell cheap english training or melamine contamintated baby milk.

wake up, china is the most degenerated incarnation of capitalism ever to show in this world, they would do anything for a few bucks

Sad. But true.

"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

Owynne wrote:
Most employers hire the non-native speaker over the qualified, degree-holding Native speaker because they can pay the former less.

Eh.
I'm a non-native speaker and I earn MORE than some of my native-English speaking colleagues.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

jas5sk wrote:
Owynne wrote:
Most employers hire the non-native speaker over the qualified, degree-holding Native speaker because they can pay the former less. The school I work at now is great in that all the foreigners here have teaching experience in their home countries and we all hold bachelor degrees or higher. But in Beijing, the company I worked for that transferred me here, hired an African to take my place for only 5,000 a month. I don't know which country he hailed from but his English was spoken with a thick accent and his grammar would be an IELST level 4. I asked my boss why she would hire him since her English was better than his, but she just warned me not to tell him how much I got paid.

I think they should use an American teacher or a Westerner who is a professional educator to screen the teachers like Network ESL does. They don't accept just anyone but have a professional interview and screen them as well as conduct a background check on their documents.

Why would a school replace good teachers, regardless of how much money they can save? The student's satisfaction has something to do with the business of making money here, right? Perhaps, they just don't like you...

Because well-qualified teachers don't want to work for Chinese companies (or universities). They quit.

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specialguy wrote:
Owynne wrote:
Why would a school replace good teachers, regardless of how much money they can save? The student's satisfaction has something to do with the business of making money here, right? Perhaps, they just don't like you...

because it is cheap and chinese biz people only care about making money no matter if they sell cheap english training or melamine contamintated baby milk.

wake up, china is the most degenerated incarnation of capitalism ever to show in this world, they would do anything for a few bucks

Yes. You're absolutely right...
Reading these post over the small that time I've been here, I can see the 'logic' slowly seeping out of them month by month. I'm awake now.

Hell is for people who don't piss the bed before they die.

Re: Teaching English Still Top Job for Foreigners

I have read some of your posts, and your views are very interesting.
I do agree with you concerning the Mexican American title!

I am new to the area, and have seen a lot of posts, steer clear of Johnson, he no gud and cheet me! Etc (spelling errors intentionaly thrown in)
But I do not see anywhere that a person can see a legitimate agency or school. I detest the idea of being cheated, or paying for some agents college education!

I have experience teaching English, as many of my subordinates in USA were Mexican immigrants who spoke little English, and I helped them, in turn they respected me gave me good work and taught me Spanish! (I am not fluent, but get by well)
I also taught my now Ex-wife English, and in turn learned Ukrainian and Russian!

Experience and education I have, a degree (except a trade school certificate) I do not have.

Would you please give me some information as to places or schools that do not cheat their employees, and would be interested in an Educator with my background?

Any and all information would be appreciated, Todd

International Todd!

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