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Chinese toilets

Why are chinese toilets such toilets for want of a better word. Even busy restaurants that could easily afford nice bogs have crappy small things that must have cost about 100 kuai in total to furnish ,and that have no soap, toilet paper and gob all over the floor!


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Depends where you go.
If I am choosing I never go to a place with inadequate facilities.
Kind of makes me think what are the kitchen and personal hygiene Nail Biting of the staff like.

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Great question, and a definite answer escapes me.
Most places can afford to have a person employed for the most menial tasks, why not the toilet cleaning. Just doesn't seem to happen as often as it should.

Sometimes the same is different, but mostly, it's the same.

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To add insult to injury, China's public toilet on the street charges one yuan per entry.

I went to a Walmart the other day in Shanghai and happened to take a leak there. I paid special attention to whether Walmart China dared to put free toilet paper and found nope. I made a beeline for the customer care desk to complain about that. The gal treated me like I was from another planet. She said Walmart stopped furnishing toilet cubicles with free paper long time prior only because they found on hourly basis Chinese shoppers stole paper from toilet.

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All this whining.

I love Chinese toilets, especially squat toilets.

I usually enjoy the ones without doors during the day.

I enjoy it if there's no working light during the night.

I enjoy squatting while smoking a cigarette, playing with my cellphone, and scratching my balls.

I enjoy it when there's no paper and I have to use a page from China Daily.

I enjoy it when my 'neighbor' starts asking me questions like 'why you come China' and 'you Chinese speak werry well, why?'.

I enjoy it when a rat zips by...back tracks..stares at me..then moves on.

I enjoy it when...

I think you get the f-ing picture.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

- VP

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There are sometimes footprints on the toilet seats. Some girls are acrobats.

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When a toilet is gross, I actually prefer the squat toilets. At least you don't have to touch anything.

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I think the word "toilet" sums up the whole situation. The word "toilet" is a very uncivilized word. Think of the picture you get in your head when you hear the word "toilet". When the Chinese start using the word restroom or Men's or Lady's room then the civility may just begin and the "Restrooms" will be clean and sanitary for us all to use.

美国鬼子

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anyone who has been around for the past decade or so will realize that there has been massive improvements in the condition of public toilets since the 90s. I can say from experience that although there's still a long way to go, things have gotten better over time

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Chinese people stealing toilet paper from public restrooms..... doesn't surprise me in the least.

But what about the soap? What, are they scared some nong is gonna come in with a ziploc bag and milk that soap dispenser for 8 mao worth of soap?
Offering soap in public restrooms would have enormous benefits for the general hygiene of the city.

Anyway, squatter toilets are technically more hygienic and healthy.... except when they're not cleaned and sh*t keeps piling higher, clinging stubbornly to the lining.
But since most Chinese who are at least middle class prefer western toilets (they certainly have them in their homes and offices), I can only conclude that the reason so many places still use squatter toilets is because it's cheap.... and because chinese people will accept it and not care.

Sometimes I feel it is maybe unbearable always be traditional Chinese girl.

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I'd say it's entirely likely that yes, they would steal the soap. Although your comments are certainly true.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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wefrucar wrote:
But since most Chinese who are at least middle class prefer western toilets (they certainly have them in their homes and offices)

here's what i think most people here prefer (and I prefer as well):

My home: sit
Public: squat

After all does the thought of rubbing asses with the 56 other people who sat on the seat in a public toilet that day before you really appeal to you?

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Not even remotely.

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Squatting in public toilets is, in theory, more sanitary, but only as long as some idiot has not spat, peed or defecated all over the floor around the hole in the ground.

I've actually found the sit down public toilets generally cleaner - probably because they tend to be located in pubic places like airports and office bldgs, rather than in a smelly, decrepit tile covered shack by the side of the road ...

Jerry Chan, Editorial Director

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Jerry wrote:
Squatting in public toilets is, in theory, more sanitary, but only as long as some idiot has not spat, peed or defecated all over the floor around the hole in the ground.

I've actually found the sit down public toilets generally cleaner - probably because they tend to be located in pubic places like airports and office bldgs, rather than in a smelly, decrepit tile covered shack by the side of the road ...

Indeed.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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1. Chinese people do not steal toilet paper. What you've seen is mostly because that those places don't provide "uptime" services. The places should provide more paper on a more frequent basis. Ask yourself if you wipe your a-hole with your thumb.

2. None will steal the soap/foam. Again, simply used out. The bottles/soaps should have been touched by thousands of people carrying numurous bacteria & viruses.

3. Westerners could be better? Sometimes when a foreign girl stands in front of me, I always pose so carefully in case touch any part of the toilet or toilet room. Maybe she has HIV. Sometimes when you despise people, people despise you too.

Up admin. Squat is a better choice for public use.

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yriafhtoot wrote:
1. Chinese people do not steal toilet paper. What you've seen is mostly because that those places don't provide "uptime" services. The places should provide more paper on a more frequent basis. Ask yourself if you wipe your a-hole with your thumb.

2. None will steal the soap/foam. Again, simply used out. The bottles/soaps should have been touched by thousands of people carrying numurous bacteria & viruses.

3. Westerners could be better? Sometimes when a foreign girl stands in front of me, I always pose so carefully in case touch any part of the toilet or toilet room. Maybe she has HIV. Sometimes when you despise people, people despise you too.

Up admin. Squat is a better choice for public use.

Sorry, you're wrong. I've asked at many places--my office, restaurants, etc.--why they don't provide paper and I'm always told--by Chinese people--that it would get stolen.

It's the same reason fast-food restaurants can't leave napkins and condiments out in the open. People'd walk out the door with pockets/purses full.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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Dear MK,

Give me a list of numbers, of your office, restaurants, etc. I will dial them in turns and ask them to call you & explain again.

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yriafhtoot wrote:
Dear MK,

Give me a list of numbers, of your office, restaurants, etc. I will dial them in turns and ask them to call you & explain again.

Well, that's a little impractical, but I can propose the following: I think you could easily find the phone numbers of all of the KFCs, McDonalds, as well as the Chinese fast-food brands in Beijing. I suggest you call them yourself and put the question to them.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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Interesting. I might do it.

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Hey, if you get a different answer, by all means let us know. The fact is, whenever I've asked, I'm told that it all disappears too quickly.

It happens on occasion in the West, too. Not tp, usually, but napkins/ketchup packets, etc. It's not so endemic that it becomes a prohibitive expense for the restaurant/office management or whatever, though.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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toothfairy, it's true.

When certain friends visit my home, I have to hide the tp.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

- VP

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yriafhtoot wrote:
1. Chinese people do not steal toilet paper. What you've seen is mostly because that those places don't provide "uptime" services. The places should provide more paper on a more frequent basis. Ask yourself if you wipe your a-hole with your thumb.

2. None will steal the soap/foam. Again, simply used out. The bottles/soaps should have been touched by thousands of people carrying numurous bacteria & viruses.

3. Westerners could be better? Sometimes when a foreign girl stands in front of me, I always pose so carefully in case touch any part of the toilet or toilet room. Maybe she has HIV. Sometimes when you despise people, people despise you too.

I wonder.

Sure, maybe you can talk of yourself, perhaps even your friends and family. But saying that no Chinese, at all steals, is simply a fallacy.

The 3.3 shopping mall has those dispensers that are now becoming quite popular, where tp is put outside the actual cubicles, and people take it when they are going in. On more than one occasion, I've seen Chinese taking a lot when they are actually leaving.

The same has happened in Singapore airport. I've used the facilities on arrival, and seen several Chinese taking a lot off the roll as they are leaving. So what you say simply can't be true.

As for not wanting to touch anything after a possible HIV patient has used, how uneducated are you? Unless they have had copious amounts of blood loss during use, HIV can't be transmitted through the ways you are detailing.

I really think you need to look things up before you comment on them.

As for the general topic in general, while dirty and generally run down toilet are a problem as Admin said, things are getting better.

As for squats in particular though, Chinese medicine, and now Western research into such matters, has shown that the position general assumed during usage of a squat is better for the necessary movements, and places less stress on the involved areas. Therefore, it is generally understood (as long as all other things are hygienic/clean)to be better for your health to go to the toilet in such a way.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

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Ok, I will try to be less narrow-minded.

What do you think people use those public tp for? Laying in a public toilet all day, it absorbs all kinds of oders and maybe some strange people even touch the top and bottom of the roll with dirty hands? I do not use tp in public toilets unless it's locked. My OCD.

Most Chinese are not keen on getting petty advantages/profits. Are you serious, tho?

Monkey King wrote:
Hey, if you get a different answer, by all means let us know. The fact is, whenever I've asked, I'm told that it all disappears too quickly.

It happens on occasion in the West, too. Not tp, usually, but napkins/ketchup packets, etc. It's not so endemic that it becomes a prohibitive expense for the restaurant/office management or whatever, though.

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yriafhtoot wrote:
Ok, I will try to be less narrow-minded.

What do you think people use those public tp for? Laying in a public toilet all day, it absorbs all kinds of oders and maybe some strange people even touch the top and bottom of the roll with dirty hands? I do not use tp in public toilets unless it's locked. My OCD.

Most Chinese are not keen on getting petty advantages/profits. Are you serious, tho?

Monkey King wrote:
Hey, if you get a different answer, by all means let us know. The fact is, whenever I've asked, I'm told that it all disappears too quickly.

It happens on occasion in the West, too. Not tp, usually, but napkins/ketchup packets, etc. It's not so endemic that it becomes a prohibitive expense for the restaurant/office management or whatever, though.

If I was going to put it in my mouth, I might worry about who touched it. But for something that I'm just going to wipe my ass with, I'm not going to insist that it be sterilized.

If you're that queasy about someone's hands touching your toilet paper, I sure hope you never have to see what goes on in the restaurant kitchens here.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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They must feel sympathetic for you. Maybe even curious about how... Smile

I prefer guessing that you never poooo at home. I bet you are a male.

taoqibao wrote:
toothfairy, it's true.

When certain friends visit my home, I have to hide the tp.

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I know a bit of what's going on in some local restaurants. Seen tons of pics. GMF is still controversial; sewer oil, roughly-washed veg, unsterilized dining utensils and etc - I got Hepatitis B vaccine and I cook. People don't die due to these bs.

HIV kills people. Any STD is ugly. The lamest thing would be that you got STD in a toilet.

Monkey King wrote:
yriafhtoot wrote:
Ok, I will try to be less narrow-minded.

What do you think people use those public tp for? Laying in a public toilet all day, it absorbs all kinds of oders and maybe some strange people even touch the top and bottom of the roll with dirty hands? I do not use tp in public toilets unless it's locked. My OCD.

Most Chinese are not keen on getting petty advantages/profits. Are you serious, tho?

Monkey King wrote:
Hey, if you get a different answer, by all means let us know. The fact is, whenever I've asked, I'm told that it all disappears too quickly.

It happens on occasion in the West, too. Not tp, usually, but napkins/ketchup packets, etc. It's not so endemic that it becomes a prohibitive expense for the restaurant/office management or whatever, though.

If I was going to put it in my mouth, I might worry about who touched it. But for something that I'm just going to wipe my ass with, I'm not going to insist that it be sterilized.

If you're that queasy about someone's hands touching your toilet paper, I sure hope you never have to see what goes on in the restaurant kitchens here.

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yriafhtoot wrote:
I know a bit of what's going on in some local restaurants. Seen tons of pics. GMF is still controversial; sewer oil, roughly-washed veg, unsterilized dining utensils and etc - I got Hepatitis B vaccine and I cook. People don't die due to these bs.

HIV kills people. Any STD is ugly. The lamest thing would be that you got STD in a toilet.

Nah, the lamest thing would be when your spouse/SO doesn't buy your story that you got your STD from a toilet!

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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I'm guessing the toothfairy doesn't touch doorknobs either.

Anyway, the worst toilets are in OHIO!
If you do a lot of interstate driving you will surely know that the best rest-stop choice is the first one entering the state with the welcome center. First impressions are everything so these stops usually receive the best funding and cleaning.

Driving one day through PA, I cross over into Ohio and stop at the first rest-stop/welcome center with confidence. I was greeted by the nastiest friggin' pit toilets I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. It has been a lasting memory and impression of the great state of Ohio. Beijing is actually an improvement in comparison.

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Never mind how you think of me. NM or whatever.

I would like to add this:
HIV stays alive in blood for 15 days under room temperature before the blood coagulates. HIV is infectious via sperm/cum, blood, vaginal secretion and milk. First 2 things can be found in men's and women's rooms at times. What's wrong of being cautious?

There was a joke/real story told by our dermatology teacher. An old brave experienced dermatologist got STD from his patient. He smoked after checking a patient. Gonorrhea or syphilis. Easy.

HuanChu wrote:

I wonder.

Sure, maybe you can talk of yourself, perhaps even your friends and family. But saying that no Chinese, at all steals, is simply a fallacy.

The 3.3 shopping mall has those dispensers that are now becoming quite popular, where tp is put outside the actual cubicles, and people take it when they are going in. On more than one occasion, I've seen Chinese taking a lot when they are actually leaving.

The same has happened in Singapore airport. I've used the facilities on arrival, and seen several Chinese taking a lot off the roll as they are leaving. So what you say simply can't be true.

As for not wanting to touch anything after a possible HIV patient has used, how uneducated are you? Unless they have had copious amounts of blood loss during use, HIV can't be transmitted through the ways you are detailing.

I really think you need to look things up before you comment on them.

As for the general topic in general, while dirty and generally run down toilet are a problem as Admin said, things are getting better.

As for squats in particular though, Chinese medicine, and now Western research into such matters, has shown that the position general assumed during usage of a squat is better for the necessary movements, and places less stress on the involved areas. Therefore, it is generally understood (as long as all other things are hygienic/clean)to be better for your health to go to the toilet in such a way.

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MK, what's SO?

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