History begins with writing, and there are inscribed chinese characters that old. It's an ancient civilization, with a single continuous evolving language.

Much wisdom has come from it, like Yi-Jing and Dao De Jing.

HOWEVER, westenr culture developed from KNOWLEDGE of previous civilizations, dating back to the Babylon epoch and predating Chinese civilization.

So don't let their collective inferiority complex intimidate you, we're every bit as "ancient".

Cave drawings + carvings = pictograms = writing

Don't sweat it, it's just what they say when they have nothing to say. When they're losing an argument or when you question something. It's just their default response when they can't think of anything to say.

It's not as if they actually studied their history. I mean really studied it properly.

Take them to task on it, ask them to tell you about their history and how it has shaped their mindset. You'll get that *sharp intake of breath from the corner of mouth* and an 'en?'. They have no f-ing clue about their history.

I've watched zhenlai school them on it on here countless times. It's quite cringeworthy.

Can you imagine a conversation in England:

A. So, Gordon Brown's foreign policy kind of sucks, eh?

B. Shut the f*** up, you don't know what your talking about! King Arthur pulled a sword out of a stone years ago, and Henry VIII had six wives and separated from the Catholic Church. You just wouldn't undserstand. *spits on floor*

I just found laowais understand China's history and culture much better than I do.

The Chinese definition of "5,000 years of history" seems to be: 5,000 years ago there were people living in what we now call "China." Let's ignore the fact that there were many little kingdoms/states back then, not one giant country.

So I like to tell people the US has 12,000 years of history. Because by the logic that people 12,000 years ago crossed from Asia into Alaska, we have history for that long.

The better question is, "Where were the Chinese people 5,000 years ago?" The answer is, "They did not exist."

I am tutoring this 15 year old Chinese kid at the moment, this boy is like a walking encyclopaedia of history, Chinese being his specialty. Not only that his family hates the CP and Mao, his Mum is a Buddhist.

It is quite fascinating when you get someone telling the history in the opposite way he would be taught it. That is, objectively. I am very fortunate. Most of the lesson I just listen to him prattle on about it as he loves it.

Last lesson he explained why Chinese used to write up to down and right to left and about the history of the only female Emporer.

Then I came home and realized my Communist Party member gf had no idea about either. And she got a high mark in Chinese history at her college years ago.

I think that about sums up the average Chinese knowledge.

He told me he could never say what he told me to his classmates at school. Lucky for him he is out of school and off to the UK soon to study.

Thank you for studying my joke so deep!

The funny thing is, TLK always thinks that I am serious when I play joke with him.

Unbearable stupidity of being!

I am fortunate enough to have two such students and at times during class we go off on some tangent about the fake modern history of China and the other students are stupefied. It's okay though because it is two of their own spewing this evil talk with only one Laowai so they can accept it. Actually I learn a lot from these two and can see where my independent study of Chinese History is lacking and can make up for it.

sure you were playing a joke on me,
BEFORE I EVEN POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD!

too bad you've heard of 'the unbearable lightness of being'.
obviously you read the title only...

roberta, you cant run away from yourself, girl.
playing silky's defense does not make you any less of a scumbag
nor does it take away from the fact that anything you've said to me
has been debunked and thrown back at you...

f***!
true dat!
well, im just a man, i can admit when ive made a mistake.

moo-moo

Uh oh, made another one.

For God's sake relax that jaw Lizzie, I know you take pride in your work but think of tonight's tricks. You don't want to blow it again, well, technically you do, but you know what I mean.

roberta black,
when is frankie and her boys coming after me and my family?