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How much should I pay at the silk market?

Hi! I'm new to Beijing and was planning on checking out the silk market. Any advice on haggling? How much should I pay for replica bags?

Thanks in advance!
Dana


Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

15 to 20 % of whatever is asked...you won't get the best price until you have left the shop and have one foot on the escalator Big Grin

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more than I invent or is invented on me.

Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

Why go there at all? It's strictly or tourists.

Why not go to the market opposite the zoo, which is where the merchants at Silk Market get their stuff anyway.

Also, you won't get any "Loo-y look-y!" "You want buy socks?" "Hey handsome man (or beautiful girl)!" etc.

Or people actually grabbing you.

Remmy be pimpin' in BJ, yo!

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Thanks kiwuk!

Remmy - I didn't know about the one by the zoo... what's it called?

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danazemke wrote:
Thanks kiwuk!

Remmy - I didn't know about the one by the zoo... what's it called?

Don't know. Go to the zoo. Cross the road. There's a big bus station there. Go through the bus station. Turn right. Walk 20 or so metres. There are two markets- one on your left and one on your right.

In the mornings buyers from the Silk Market are there loading up their vans.

Remmy be pimpin' in BJ, yo!

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RemmyM wrote:
danazemke wrote:
Thanks kiwuk!

Remmy - I didn't know about the one by the zoo... what's it called?

Don't know. Go to the zoo. Cross the road. There's a big bus station there. Go through the bus station. Turn right. Walk 20 or so metres. There are two markets- one on your left and one on your right.

In the mornings buyers from the Silk Market are there loading up their vans.

Oh?

Married

Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

Silk market is good place if you are tourist seeking for souvenir, they offer clothes which look in "Chinese" style very much. The suitable price is 1/6 of what they charge for.

Zoo(动物园服装批发市场) is for 老北京,e.g.Remmy

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I haven't been to the Zoo but I was told about it and that you had to buy in bulk. True?

I have been to other discount places with my wife but I usually have trouble with sizes, especially shoes!

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Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

Thanks for the responses everyone!

Silk market was total madness and I paid about 10% of their first asking price (which I'm sure was still too much). You're totally right, if you walk away they get serious.

I checked out the place across from the zoo too - the salespeople were not pushy but the place overall wasn't as organized. I had a hard time finding watches/purses that were decent... maybe I wasn't in the right place though.

From my experience it seems that if you're looking for replica watch/purses then to go to the silk market - but if you're looking for a bargain on clothing the place across from the zoo is the best.

Thanks again for the help!

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When you go into Silk Market, you will notice some interesting words writting on the board: Shopping with confidence.

The girls in Silk Market are very aggressive, so you should be very brave when haggling with them.

I aggree that you pay only 20% of their first price.

For a replica bag, if they ask you for 300 RMB, then give them 60 RMB. Normally a replica bag might cost you 80 RMB or something, and you should never give them 80 as your first price, but 60, a little bit lower than your final price.

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My rule is offer 10%, go as high as 15%. Walk away. If they don't take it at 15%, you go somewhere else and start at 10%, go as high as 20%. There are always multiple people selling the same product, so you have some leeway with this.

The silk market is a tourist trap, but they all speak English, and if you are traveling from out of the country, it's still cheap as hell.

I bought a Wii game there though last time and it didn't work.

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Stay away from SILK MARKET and YASHOW, the people who work and sell there are greedy and very rude. When you go buy a bag this is how it starts. First they say, "I usually sell this bag for 1200RMB, but for you I will sell it for 550RMB" Then they will ask you for your price and punch it in on the calculater to see how much they can rip you off. So I suggest that when you go to SILK Market spend the first day just asking prices, don't bring a penny with you. Bargain with them untill they kick you out of the store and start cussing you out. Also be aware that they share information, so when you leave a store, they will follow you to the other store and say things about your price your looking for and not to go below it. Its all dirty business, so if your looking for good prices you got to get dirty with them too. 1 year experience dealing with these A-Holes. To tell you the truth, there are better places in Beijing who do not target foriegners to rip off. Shoes Max 100, Bags best quailty MAX 200, avoid all t-shirts worst quality, Polo shirts can be bought between 20-40RMB. Also dress shirts max 40RMB. Jackets Max 200 and thats a rip off. Please avoid this place at all cost. It will save you headache and you will not have to meet the greediest people on earth.

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I have been to the Silk Market many times since the 1990s but in recent years, I despise going there. The sellers have become extremely rude and insulting. No matter what you do- whether you ask the price before examining the item, or examine the item before asking price, they will still generally curse you with rude swears in English if you chose not to buy the item.

I strongly recommend NOT shopping at the Silk Market or Yashow. Go instead to the Zoo clothing market where the goods are the same, and the sellers are generally polite and nice.

At the Silk Market, the seller's rude attitudes must surely be a result of their owner/bosses encouraging them to curse potential customers in an attempt to intimidate and pressure them into parting with their money. I strongly recommend boycotting such planned nastiness. By encouraging this type of crude behavior, the owner/bosses also damage the minds/personas of the young girls who work as sellers in the place. Nobody would chose to be a nasty person. It is the marketing-methods that the boss encourages that influences and transforms the sellers into rude people who lack respect for everything other than money.

The Silk Market is a sad place- its a distilled version of everything that is wrong with China: obsession with money and glorification of money over everything else including respect for other human beings, employing village girls at a crappy salary and make them behave in dehumanizing ways so that the owner/bosses can get rich.

Overall, the Silk Market is disgusting and dehumanizing for everyone involved (except for the owner/bosses who get rich from this system).

In Beijing, there are many low cost, nice places to shop with pleasant and polite seller/clerks. Let's patronize those shops instead.

Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

georui wrote:
I strongly recommend NOT shopping at the Silk Market or Yashow. Go instead to the Zoo clothing market where the goods are the same, and the sellers are generally polite and nice.

Correct, but the secret is to wear a pair of headphones and actually listen to music on them, the voices magically disappear. All the Yashow/silk market stuff will inevitably shrink progressively each time its washed but like all the markets in Beijing they are fed by the arrival depot just south of "Mu Xi Yuan Qiao" bridge. That's where all the material stores are too (thousands), the huge trucks arrive there from inner China.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=beijing+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=...

NW (100m) of the bridge is a massive shopping center that makes the silk market look ridiculous. 500m East of the bridge on the 3rd ring road(north side)is the International toy market.

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half price Angry

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When I first came to Beijing I had a Chinese friend suggest that I drop a decimal point with every price offered to me, at the time I thought that sounded cheap and insulting, but have learned since then that I have saved a ton of money.

China has more pigs than America has people.

Re: How much should I pay at the silk market?

60-70% off, good luck, no joking Big Grin

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joepie wrote:
60-70% off, good luck, no joking :D

Then you're getting ripped of my friend Smile You often can get away with paying less than 10% of what their asking price. Don't feel cheap, if they don't make a profit they won't sell it to you, just go to another stall which offers the same crap.

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