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Africa: Some Phun Phax!

Africa-bashing is a sometime sport in this forum. Hey, I take a few swings myself from time to time. But I ran across a tidbit from the World Bank about those greedy dark bassits sucking up money from the good-guy West. It seems, in 1999 Angola got $261m in aid. She paid $1144m in "debt service." Cameroon got $190 in aid, paid $549 in "debt service." Kenya $195m/$716m. &c&c. There are those who speak of "the other kind of terrorism: debt." But that would be ridiculous right? I mean, if we can't trust financiers, we might as well throw in the towel, huh?

Pi was banned for your sins.


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Yes! Those evil banker "terrorists" just forced African leaders to take out massive loans. Massive loans they could freely spend and spend and spend on corruption and sock away into their personal Swiss bank accounts. Massive loans that probably are at highly discounted loan rates subsidized by Western taxpayers.

How dare these banker "terrorists" expect loans to be repaid, a.k.a. "debt service!? Africans are never responsible for their generations of corruption and outright stupidity. Nah....

By the way... why the f**k is the West continuing to give these countries aid?

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Agree on most counts but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the aid the US and UK governments have given to bankers! Rolling On The Floor

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more than I invent or is invented on me.

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Agree with the banker comment. My opinion is to have the governments save the banks, but fire all the bankers. Yeah, I know the argument you hear in the press is we have to maintain the current banking executives because they are "experienced". They clusterf**ked the system. How experienced can they be? They are lucky we don't jail the lot. Quite frankly there are thousands of MBAs out there willing to take a 100K salary to replace the bankers. A whole new banking executive staff could not be worse than the "executives" that oversaw the AIG and Citibank meltdowns. Angry

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Absolutely great idea. Fire all the bankers, the bonus system is rape of the shareholders and depositors alike. The bonuses have perverted banking into dubious paper instruments and false accounting to jack up paper profits in order to gain obscene bonuses while small and medium sized businesses are starved of capital. It is the small and medium sized businesses which while not glamorous account for most of the economies jobs and GDP.

If the banks put their efforts into assisting enterprises with real value added that produce goods and services rather than indulge in speculation everyone would benefit.

I have another harsh word for auditors who by their negligence, incompetence or complicity have allowed this situation to persist. The auditors together with dierectors and trustees should be made financially liable for losses incurred through cooking the books.

Are not auditors supposed to be the policemen of the financial system...or am I being too simplistic?

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more than I invent or is invented on me.

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Pnkearns, there's something in Africa that bugs the hell out of you. what's that? I'm not so sure it's has to do with those 'terrorist bankers in africa' ...

what is it?

oh, thanks kiwuk for acting the samaritan...

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Kofi Annan's Astonishing Facts
[New York Times, 29 September 1998]

The three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 48 least developed countries.

The world's 225 richest individuals, of whom 60 are Americans with total assets of $311 billion, have a combined wealth of over $1 trillion – equal to the annual income of the poorest 47 percent of the entire world's population.

Americans spend $8 billion a year on cosmetics – $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide basic education for everyone in the world.

Europeans spend $11 billion a year on ice cream – $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide clean water and safe sewers for the world's population.

It is estimated that the additional cost of achieving and maintaining universal access to basic education for all, basic health care for all, reproductive health care for all women, adequate food for all and clean water and safe sewers for all is roughly $40 billion a year – or less than 4 percent of the combined wealth of the 225 richest people in the world.

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ebi wrote:
Pnkearns, there's something in Africa that bugs the hell out of you. what's that? I'm not so sure it's has to do with those 'terrorist bankers in africa' ...

what is it?

A. The title of this thread is "Africa: Some Phun Phax!"

B. The original post was about Africa being a welfare continent living off foreign aid and bank loans.

What bugs me is Western governments, including my country, continuing to waste tax money giving aid to a continent that acts like a jacked up drug addict whining for a new fix. I'm all for helping Africa on a temporary basis. I'm all for helping African in a crisis - temporarily. I just believe Africans should stop the "victim" and "colonialism" excuses, start taking responsibility, and stand up on their own.

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pi wrote:
Kofi Annan's Astonishing Facts
[New York Times, 29 September 1998]

The three richest people in the world have assets that exceed the combined gross domestic product of the 48 least developed countries.

The three richest people in the world are Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Carlos Slim Helu. All three have CREATED businesses that that positively impacted billions around the world, employed millions and created new industries and technologies.

If anything, we should hold these people in high regard for making the life of billions of humans better. Their success is not an excuse for the 48 countries failure.

pi wrote:
The world's 225 richest individuals, of whom 60 are Americans with total assets of $311 billion, have a combined wealth of over $1 trillion – equal to the annual income of the poorest 47 percent of the entire world's population.

And these richest individuals create the jobs, jobs and jobs that is the only hope over time of improving the lives of these 47 percent. Wealth comes from private industry, not government and not the U.N.

pi wrote:
Americans spend $8 billion a year on cosmetics – $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide basic education for everyone in the world.

Europeans spend $11 billion a year on ice cream ...

Americans and Europeans have worked for their wages and damn well have the right to spend it as they see fit.

pi wrote:
– $2 billion more than the estimated annual total needed to provide clean water and safe sewers for the world's population.

It is estimated that the additional cost of achieving and maintaining universal access to basic education for all, basic health care for all, reproductive health care for all women, adequate food for all and clean water and safe sewers for all is roughly $40 billion a year – or less than 4 percent of the combined wealth of the 225 richest people in the world.

These "estimate" numbers are total bulls**t. You can't even provide clean water and safe sewers in Beijing for $2 billion. You can't even provide this magic list of education, food, health care for women, etc. for $40 billion in any country in the world, let alone "for all".

Kofi Annan's astonishing facts? I'm astonished anyone believes this load of horse crap. More important, if you really want to contribute help, this outright total list of lies does damage to fund raising. Kofi Annan should be ashamed of these types of statements.

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Hey Pnkearns,

Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.

Why is the wealth in China mostly concentrated on the East Coast? Is it because everyone in Gansu is stupid and lazy?

Or because they're up sh*t creek without a paddle and don't have the means to lift themselves out of poverty?

I'd have more respect if you just came right out and said "I don't give a f*** about their condition. Tough luck" than you going into all kinds of contortions to try to justify why it's ok for 3 hooked-nosed men to have 92% of the world's wealth while millions have sh*t.

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Unfortunately that is the way the world is, pi~~~

No words are racist. Actions are racist.
Say what you need to explain yourself.
If you are not racist it will shine through.

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The rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer...we are somewhere in the middle to try to make a living....

No words are racist. Actions are racist.
Say what you need to explain yourself.
If you are not racist it will shine through.

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Yeah, Mockingbird knows.

Everybody knows.

Except pnkearns.

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Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

-- Leonard Cohen

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Leonard Cohen: Another Canadian mirth merchant? But he sounds Jewish! Thank goodness Pi is an optimist.

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more than I invent or is invented on me.

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pnkearns wrote:
ebi wrote:
Pnkearns, there's something in Africa that bugs the hell out of you. what's that? I'm not so sure it's has to do with those 'terrorist bankers in africa' ...

what is it?

A. The title of this thread is "Africa: Some Phun Phax!"

B. The original post was about Africa being a welfare continent living off foreign aid and bank loans.

What bugs me is Western governments, including my country, continuing to waste tax money giving aid to a continent that acts like a jacked up drug addict whining for a new fix. I'm all for helping Africa on a temporary basis. I'm all for helping African in a crisis - temporarily. I just believe Africans should stop the "victim" and "colonialism" excuses, start taking responsibility, and stand up on their own.

First of, Pnkearns is a black man born in a white continent and he believes that:

1. Colonialism has ended in Africa as a whole.

2. Africans are lazy people who can't fend for themselves.

3. His precious tax money of which he is not accountable is being used as a drug to cure an ailing continent of 52 countries.

If all of the above is true then pnkearns must be an ignoramus. In any case there is no need to engage him in any meaningful argument about Africa's woes.

n.b pnkearns: you've not actually stated what really bugs you about Africa.

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Mockingbird wrote:
Unfortunately that is the way the world is, pi~~~

Yeah, that's the way the world IS.

NOW.

But people need to join "Pi's Up The Ass Cult", where we f*** the Matrix up the ass in 42 million not-so-easy steps so that everything is upside down and the way it SHOULD be by the time we're finished.

I still don't have any members, but I'm optimistic.

No, actually I'm not. I don't see any hope for a brighter future.

But hopefully I can get at least one cute girl to join my cult and at least get laid.

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ebi wrote:
First of, Pnkearns is a black man born in a white continent and he believes that:

1. Colonialism has ended in Africa as a whole.
2. Africans are lazy people who can't fend for themselves.

Colonialism started to end after WW II. The claim of "colonialism" legacy and African victimhood is just total B.S. these days. When you look at all the other nations around the world that were spun off colonies (at the same time as Africa) and are politically /economically successful, the conclusion is the problems of Africa are mostly caused by Africans themselves.

ebi wrote:
3. His precious tax money of which he is not accountable is being used as a drug to cure an ailing continent of 52 countries.

Yeah... right.... after how many decades of "cure"? We have already passed 60 years of "cure" aid for some African countries. That isn't a cure. That's supplying drugs that keep an addict dependent. Ask any 12 step AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) person.

ebi wrote:
n.b pnkearns: you've not actually stated what really bugs you about Africa.

Personally, I don't give a rat's *ss one way or another about Africa. I would like to visit as a tourist one day, but that's about all I give a damn.
Personally, I'm for helping my fellow man, including Africans, on a temporary basis. Then it is up to them to be self sufficient on their own.

I blame African leaders for being "compassion" pimps whoring out their people to get western aid. I blame Western leaders for being lazy and not demanding a path to self sufficiency as part of aid programs, and willing to cut off aid if progress is not made towards self sufficiency.

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pi wrote:
Why is the wealth in China mostly concentrated on the East Coast? Is it because everyone in Gansu is stupid and lazy?

It is because the Chinese government policy was to allow foreign investment and company partnerships in economic zones along the east coast from 1978 - 2000. Learn your history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China#1978.E2.80.931990

pi wrote:
Or because they're up sh*t creek without a paddle and don't have the means to lift themselves out of poverty?

I'm pointing out that wealth comes from the private sector, including government owned companies. China, despite all the problems, has demonstrated capitalism creates jobs that allows people a better life. If it didn't then the 70's cultural revolution would have been social nirvana.

People like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett create wealth and industries that create jobs for millions and change positively the lives of billions. The whining of the Kofi post is just class envy from a government bureaucrat that has never created an economic opportunity in his life. Gates and Buffet create the wealth that pays for Kofi's compassionate appeals.

pi wrote:
I'd have more respect if you just came right out and said "I don't give a f*** about their condition. Tough luck" than you going into all kinds of contortions to try to justify why it's ok for 3 hooked-nosed men to have 92% of the world's wealth while millions have sh*t.

Oh Pi.... I'm so sorry. I'm such an unfeeling sh*t. Loser Tongue

Why is it "compassionate" liberals like you have a socialist streak where there is only a fixed amount of money, etc., and you "feel" you have to tear down successful people with class envy? Why is it you want to create worldwide welfare programs a la your U.N. Kofi Annan's post? Sheesh.... you are in friggin China, a country (despite all its problems) that proves self sufficiency and new wealth and new jobs can be created. It is not a matter of taking the wealth from one group (Gates and Buffett) and giving it to the poor as some sort of social justice redistribution of wealth. It is about EXPANDING the economy and opportunities so that everyone gains. Sheesh.... this is Econ 101 on expanding markets. Why not demand aid programs for the undeveloped nations MUST end in self-sufficiency vs. U.N. welfare? Only when these nations are self-sufficient will the long term jobs be created vs. decades of dependency on U.N. charities. It is not charity or compassion to create dependency and welfare. It is charity and compassion to help people stand on their own in dignity.

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pnkearns, pnkearns, pnkearns.

the fist thing we need to do with you is wash your brain out with soap.

please don't quote Economics 101 that you learned in your ivy league schools. first of all, i've heard it all before. secondly, it's boring as hell. i'm having trouble staying awake reading your posts. thirdly, this is all Matrix sh*t.

Your first 're-education' assignment is to read this.

This is how things really work.

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/9/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

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We speak with John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man he describes how as a highly paid professional, he helped the U.S. cheat poor countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars by lending them more money than they could possibly repay and then take over their economies.

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JOHN PERKINS: Well, the company I worked for was a company named Chas. T. Main in Boston, Massachusetts. We were about 2,000 employees, and I became its chief economist. I ended up having fifty people working for me. But my real job was deal-making. It was giving loans to other countries, huge loans, much bigger than they could possibly repay. One of the conditions of the loan—let’s say a $1 billion to a country like Indonesia or Ecuador—and this country would then have to give ninety percent of that loan back to a U.S. company, or U.S. companies, to build the infrastructure—a Halliburton or a Bechtel. These were big ones. Those companies would then go in and build an electrical system or ports or highways, and these would basically serve just a few of the very wealthiest families in those countries. The poor people in those countries would be stuck ultimately with this amazing debt that they couldn’t possibly repay. A country today like Ecuador owes over fifty percent of its national budget just to pay down its debt. And it really can’t do it. So, we literally have them over a barrel. So, when we want more oil, we go to Ecuador and say, “Look, you’re not able to repay your debts, therefore give our oil companies your Amazon rain forest, which are filled with oil.” And today we’re going in and destroying Amazonian rain forests, forcing Ecuador to give them to us because they’ve accumulated all this debt. So we make this big loan, most of it comes back to the United States, the country is left with the debt plus lots of interest, and they basically become our servants, our slaves. It’s an empire. There’s no two ways about it. It’s a huge empire. It’s been extremely successful.

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Colonialism [ on paper ] started to end after world war two but it took RSA up till 1994 to scrap aparteid. Who are you kidding, man? It hasn't ended and it will not end until all of Africa's resources are finished. The scramble for Africa by European imperial powers was the major cause of all of Africa's problem today. Various ethnic groups whom would normally not be put together were muddled up together and countries were created just for the sake of profit making and cheap labor.

Please name some countries outside Africa that were spun off slave trade or colonies, which later became economically and politically successful. None. The problems created by the scramble for Africa are ethnic violence and inter tribal wars, just to mention a few. If not for colonialism various ethnic groups which were never meant to be joined as one country wouldn't be joined in the name of nation building or democracy. But what do we have now? A situation where a certain ethnic group gets elected by way of rigging or otherwise and their European imperial backers are appeased. Basically the other ethnic group in the mix would feel cheated and hence the violence and upheaval which is synonymous with Africa is assured.

Africans are part of the problem but THEY are not the cause of the problem.

Now let's go on to the AID question. First things first, Africa is not sick so there is nothing your aid would cure, the so called aid is not a drug. It is a business which is linked to the SECURITY of all stakeholders involved. For example, your country discovered oil long before most countries in Africa did. Your country decided to stop drilling for oil on their own land so as to save their environment from continual degradation caused by exploration and production pollution etc. They went overseas, to the less developed countries where they could get what they wanted at a cheap cost while winning elections at home, at the cost of lives and property in those areas they operate. As you can see the aid you claim that has been milking your tax money is not actually an aid but a business cycle which revolves around those natural resources which instigated the scramble for Africa in the first place.

In other words the colonialists never left. They stayed on - as ghosts, doing their business and allowing the continent to collapse both politically and economically while enriching themselves. I can see through their minds now and i know what 'they' are thinking; it goes like this: since we are making a lot of profit from Africa at their own expense, wouldn't it be nice to aid them in any way we can, afterall we designed those territories and their black puppets in government would always obey us. Hence the aid . Shove your god forsaken aid up your stupid ass for all i care, pnkearns. You're still an ignoramus.

I hope you visit as a tourist one day. I'm sure the experience would be an eye opener because many like you have come and gone. Some of them came to search for their ancestral roots etc. Most of them went back happy and continued to vist since then...

Finally, i agree with you on blaming African leaders for the jinx but the greater percentage of the blame should go to their sponsors, the ones in Washington, Downing street, Paris and Berlin et al. ..and now Beijing has joined the fray.

God help Africa. Amen.

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Pi, Pi, Pi...

I already wrote that one of my issues with Africa was that it leaders were whoring out its population.

Your "revolutionary" posts would have more impact if they did not have a Che image.

Many Cubans exiles in the U.S. consider Che's reign as the head of Cuban prisons to be a black era since he happily ran the first firing squads under Castro and founded the Cuban labor camp system.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2107100/
As a later South American revolutionary, he was of minor importance.
If he met the "revolutionary" Pi, he probably would given you about 10 minutes before having you lined up against a wall and shot.

Let's face it. If Che hadn't been put onto a French protest poster back in '68 because the French thought his image was a "handsome revolutionary", then he wouldn't have the fashion cult that puts his image on everything from T-shirts to Smirnoff Vodka ads. No one would give a sh*t about his minor place in history.

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If I had the chance to meet CHE, I'd guide him and things would be a lot different around here.

Viva La Revolucion !!!

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ebi wrote:
Colonialism [ on paper ] started to end after world war two but it took RSA up till 1994 to scrap aparteid.

And this excuses the other 51 African nations? Many of them independent for over 50 years or more?

ebi wrote:
Various ethnic groups whom would normally not be put together were muddled up together and countries were created just for the sake of profit making and cheap labor.

A. African empires existed prior to Europeans with muddled populations.
B. Follow the Yugoslav or India/Pakistan model and break into smaller nations along ethic lines.

ebi wrote:
Please name some countries outside Africa that were spun off slave trade or colonies, which later became economically and politically successful.

Saudi Arabia had 20% slave population until 1950.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
As for former colonies making it economically, most nations of the Middle East, Asia and the Pacific Islands.

ebi wrote:
Now let's go on to the AID question. ...

Sorry... total bulls*t. If you want to charge more for your oil / resources, then do so. African nations are not owed aid.

If the "colonialists never left", then that is the problem of African leadership isn't it?

I will agree with one thing, God help Africa. Amen.

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pi wrote:
If I had the chance to meet CHE, I'd guide him and things would be a lot different around here.

Viva La Revolucion !!!

If you met Che, he would be 82 and using a walker to get around.

Nothing is so sad as revolutionary hero chasing women around the retirement home in his wheelchair.

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Nothing sad about CHE. He has attained immortality.

Saw a little ma and pa restaurant that has a poster of him on their window.

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Che was a murdering cowardly bastard who was quite willing to serve up his compadres to save his own skin when he finally got his!
But he did take a good picture once.

Men of all sorts take a pride to gird at me: the brain of this foolish-compounded clay, man, is not able to invent anything that tends to laughter, more than I invent or is invented on me.

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And this excuses the other 51 African nations? Many of them independent for over 50 years or more?

RSA is not yet free. They've just learnt how to mingle. The other 51 countries learnt how to mingle before RSA was set free. The big picture is that the wealth revolves around those selected few who mingle so well.

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A. African empires existed prior to Europeans with muddled populations.

Ofcourse empires existed and they fought wars long before the Europeans arrived. I can't verify if those empires had muddled-up ethnic lines, i have to check but what i can assure you is that the Europeans muddled the entire continent beyond elastic limit.

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B. Follow the Yugoslav or India/Pakistan model and break into smaller nations along ethic lines.

Why ? Some African countries could even measure up to any of the above named countries if given the technology and training now. The major bottle neck is that most Management Executives would demand more to stay in Africa for the long haul. Asia is cheaper in terms of safety etc.

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Saudi Arabia had 20% slave population until 1950.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
As for former colonies making it economically, most nations of the Middle East, Asia and the Pacific Islands.

Pnkearns, you're dumb but you're brainy.

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If you want to charge more for your oil / resources, then do so. African nations are not owed aid.

Start from Houston, Texas.

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If the "colonialists never left", then that is the problem of African leadership isn't it?

Who are you going to fight? Poor people who can't even afford three square meals...

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ebi wrote:
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And this excuses the other 51 African nations? Many of them independent for over 50 years or more?

RSA is not yet free. They've just learnt how to mingle. The other 51 countries learnt how to mingle before RSA was set free. The big picture is that the wealth revolves around those selected few who mingle so well.

Play the victim your entire life so you are never responsible.
Blame the Europeans who left generations ago, then resist any changes to the status quo of their colonies (e.g. borders that mix ethic groups) rather than institute change.
It's easier to chant "it's all the white devil's fault!"
You'll never be free in your own mind.

I hope Africa changes and starts standing on its own. The "white devil" nations are not buying into the "colonial guilt" it is peddling any more.

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Pnkearns, you still don't get it, do you?

These people are not playing victim. They are real victims of colonialism. Judging from my own personal experiences in Africa, i do not think the people blame the Europeans for their problems. I think most of the people actually blame their government hence the chaos and violence that you see everyday on TV.

I am the one who is blaming the Europeans.

Africa has been changing but the media hasn't changed it's biased methods of reporting Africa news. The colonial masters will continue to buy into the 'colonial guilt' appeal but what they do with that is their choice. Whatever they do, it won't stop Africans from moving on and changing their future anyway they can.

pnkearns wrote:
Blame the Europeans who left generations ago, then resist any changes to the status quo of their colonies (e.g. borders that mix ethic groups) rather than institute change.

AAh, sounds so sweet. How ?

You see, they more you provide answers without visiting the place, the more you're wrong in all your calculations about the place. Imagine what you are proposing; ' resisting any changes' along ethnic lines ? If they resist, they would be killed.

I think we should all focus more on creating new jobs in Africa, rather than masterminding any form of agitation which may lead to anarchy. The rich nations should stop sending aid to africa, they should spend more money on training or on stuffs like ICT and Solar Energy.

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pi wrote:
Mockingbird wrote:
Unfortunately that is the way the world is, pi~~~

Yeah, that's the way the world IS.

NOW.

But people need to join "Pi's Up The Ass Cult", where we f*** the Matrix up the ass in 42 million not-so-easy steps so that everything is upside down and the way it SHOULD be by the time we're finished.

I still don't have any members, but I'm optimistic.

No, actually I'm not. I don't see any hope for a brighter future.

But hopefully I can get at least one cute girl to join my cult and at least get laid.

Ahahaha~~~ thanks, pi~~~ I am not that desperate but will let you know in future Laughing

No words are racist. Actions are racist.
Say what you need to explain yourself.
If you are not racist it will shine through.

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Mockingbird wrote:
pi wrote:
Mockingbird wrote:
Unfortunately that is the way the world is, pi~~~

Yeah, that's the way the world IS.

NOW.

But people need to join "Pi's Up The Ass Cult", where we f*** the Matrix up the ass in 42 million not-so-easy steps so that everything is upside down and the way it SHOULD be by the time we're finished.

I still don't have any members, but I'm optimistic.

No, actually I'm not. I don't see any hope for a brighter future.

But hopefully I can get at least one cute girl to join my cult and at least get laid.

Ahahaha~~~ thanks, pi~~~ I am not that desperate but will let you know in future Laughing

The future is now, mockingbird. Postpone at your own risk Laughing

Pi, go get some ....

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