Can I get a Chinese tourist visa with a misdemeanor on my record?
I have already done everything the courts wanted me to do and the case has been closed, yet since it is still on my record and I'm still on informal probation, I'm worried that I will be denied the tourist visa. I'm really stressed about this because I was really looking forward to going. The misdemeanor was for a minor battery charge(altercation with a customer) but this happened almost 2 years ago and the case has been closed. I'm afraid to check yes I have a misdemeanor because they might deny me and if I check no and they do a background check and find out I have one I will be denied. I was thinking the only thing I could do is check yes and just explain in detail what happened and that I'm really sorry and that I learned my lesson and dress nice and all that. I'm wondering if anyone on here knows if having a misdemeanor and being on informal probation will keep me from going to China? Please help




gdbill
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Not sure, but given that many of the English teachers already floating around Beijing are felons, deadbeats and / or psychos, my guess is that they will not do a criminal records check on you. YMMV
"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???
robertm
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So it would seem that either they don't really look into your criminal background unless your throwing up red flags or are blacklisted for terrorism or they just don't really care too much about who they let in their country? I'm guessing it is the former. Nevertheless, I will check yes that I have a record and give a detailed explanation, express remorse and hopefully I won't run into any problems.
MrTang
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Good look with that approach.
Im a f-ing Idiot.
robertm
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I just did a free background check on myself and for some reason my criminal offense for the misdemeanor is not even listed? I'm not complaining at all...but I just find this really strange. It has all my traffic violations, which I'm not worried about, but do some criminal record check websites show more detailed(updated) records than others?
gdbill
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Some records check websites do not have access to criminal records in every state. DMV records are totally different than criminal records.
"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???
zhenlai
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China does not investigate your criminal background when deciding whether or not to issue you a visa.
美国鬼子
robertm
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Then why do they ask if you have a criminal record on the Chinese visa application if they don't check? I'm not trying to come off as an annoyance. I just don't want to check no and then have them run a check on me and then I wind up getting denied the visa altogether. If what you say if right and they don't check...is the criminal check for the visa more for the US government to be concerned about? I called the courthouse and they told me that nothing on the US end is going to keep me from going to China, but they told me that I need to look into if China will. I just hope that I can go there as I am planning to go really soon.
zhenlai
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I have been getting visas to come to China since 1999 and they have never checked my background. China and the United States do not have an extradition treaty so, I would think that China has no right to check your criminal background. I am not sure now though. Maybe they have changed the form and their method of granting visas since I last applied outside of the U.S. which was in 2006.
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gdbill
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Come on ... just think logically for a moment, will you?
First of all, they also ask if you have TB, HIV and a number of other ailments. Have they taken a blood sample from you? Do you think they can do it via osmosis?
Secondly, running a criminal records check costs money. Do you actually think they're going to spend several million $$ running background checks on every individual who goes to China?
You can do what you want to do and I am not suggesting you lie. But I am telling you that whatever you fill out on that visa application they pretty much have to take your word for it.
"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???
gdbill
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You are correct.
They cannot get information directly from US law enforcement agencies. They could, however, hire {i.e. pay $$) a private firm to run a check which may or may not cover each state. Or they might be able to ask an individual applicant to produce a background check from a law enforcement agency. But they cannot get one on their own.
"Truth is not a commodity in short supply: The problem is, there's very little demand for it." -- ???
MrTang
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God you not even here yet dude and its already a mare for ya.

What u gonna do btw when u get here? Teach?
Im a f-ing Idiot.
Jordean
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If you are no longer on supervised probation and the case is closed, just ignore it. Have your attorney begin proceedings to expunge the record.
"A disarmed populace learns to knuckle under."
-- javajoe, or was it Charlton Heston?
herojuana
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Did you batter him good?
hahaha
Honesty
Empathy
Respect
Open-mindedness
robertm
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I appreciate all of your input. Perhaps I was being a tad bit paranoid lol. I will just check no that I don't have a criminal record and I'm sure I will be alright. Thanks again everyone.
Jordean
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The Chinese visa is a small thing. I would be more concerned about future employment if I were you.
A better investment of your time and money (than coming to China) would be to get your record expunged, if the local law allows...
"A disarmed populace learns to knuckle under."
-- javajoe, or was it Charlton Heston?
robertm
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I can get my record expunged but first I have to go in front of a judge and request that he terminates my probation and then I can go expunge my record, but the public defender mentioned that it can take up to about 3 months or more just to get it expunged! I am willing to maybe get this done before I go to China, but if not...first thing when I get back. What sucks is that even it you get the charge expunged it STILL stays on your record. I also have a job plan and living situation set up for when I get there. =)
Jordean
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Expunged means it would be closed to the public. The record is still there, but no one can see it. For all practical purposes it's gone.
Do you personally have to go before the judge? In Indiana people can petition the court, and if the prosecuting attorney doesn't object, the court can simply issue an order.
I am not saying that the prosecutor won't object, but maybe you don't need to be there?
Did you have a lawyer when you entered your guilty plea? Were you advised of your rights before you entered the plea? It sounds vaguely to me like this might have been a mutual combat situation, where neither party was criminally-culpable. If that was the case, you may have had a defense, and perhaps the prosecutor should not have filed. Not being advised of your rights before pleading could be a violation of your constitutional rights. If the PD has nothing better to do s/he should check the record of your arraignment and GP, to be sure you were read all your rights.
(This constitution stuff is not a technicality...)
"A disarmed populace learns to knuckle under."
-- javajoe, or was it Charlton Heston?
yalishanda
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For a tourist visa you don't need any criminal record or health test. You need these only for applying for a Z visa(working visa)
MadeinAmerica
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I think you should add an explanation. Just tell them the truth. Tell them you are incredibly stupid and wonder if they still want you to come.
I am sure they will agree about how stupid you are. So this should not be a problem.
MadeinAmerica