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Are serviced apartments better than regular apartments? Is Fraser Suites CBD-East a good place to live?

Hi, I just arrived in Beijing from the UK and am looking for a 2 bedroom apartment to live in by myself, although my partner will come and stay with me for a month every few months. Today an agent took me to see a few places (Central Park - great gym and facilities but the apartments were drably furnished; Park Avenue - liked it but no gym and the subway station is apparently pretty far, and so is the location from the city centre; Marriot Sandalwood - cosy but just 1 bedroom; Fraser Suites CBD-East - nice but apparently also quite far from a subway and a bit too far out from the centre... yet my first choice at the moment).

I'll be in Beijing for 3 years so I wanted an apartment rather than a serviced place so that I don't feel like I'm living in a hotel. Also, the serviced apartments have the kitchen joined onto the lounge/ dining room - the whole apartment will smell when I cook! I can't seem to decide what is best.

Location is very important to me - I would prefer to live somewhere on Subway Line 1 or Subway Line 5. I like the area around Yonghegong Lama Temple and Dengshikou... If anyone has tips on any expatriate-style apartments (must include gym) near these areas, I would be grateful to know.

Thanks

Elena


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Most people here for 3 years will go for a regular apartment not a serviced apartment. Serviced apartments make more sense for people here on shorter term gigs (say 1-3 months at a time) and who don't want to stay in a hotel or fool around with long-term contracts, household items like plates and towels, finding an ayi (maid), etc. Serviced apartments are generally priced (high) with that in mind, not for really long-stay residency. But if your company is paying the bill regardless...well, I guess it's up to you.

Living within a 15 minute walk of a subway line is very very useful. If location is important to you, then don't even waste your time looking at places that don't meet that fundamental criteria or are out of your price range. Not sure exactly what you have in mind when you say "expatriate style apartments" as to some people that means things like Central Park and Park Avenue, and to others it means a more wide selection that includes relatively new Chinese resident buildings that are more downmarket, but pleasant enough to appeal to foreigners not requiring intl satellite TV and top English speaking mgmt.

If you want the Lama Temple and Dengshikou areas, you're probably going to find more of the latter than the former. Most of the higher end expat-oriented apartments are not in that immediate area. As to gym, often there will be a commercial gym near to the apartment complex if the complex itself doesn't have one on premises--so ask residents or the management office or on the street before you cast out an otherwise good option for lack-of-gym reasons. You should also consider things within walking distance of Dongzhimen or Dongsishitiao (Line 2) stations--that's a convenient area not far from your targets, has a range of housing choices on both sides of the Easr 2nd Ring road, and easy to get to Lines 1 and 5. The more upmarket places will be on the East side. Take a look at Seasons Park if you haven't yet done so--they have a few styles of 2 BR, good services and mgmt, and a great gym. <10 min walk to Dongzhimen subway Line 2, Line 13, airport express, big bus station.

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Also: be careful of agents. Don't give out too much information to them, just bare bones. I would not let them in on the 3 year time frame, just tell them the standard 1 year for now. Understand that the agenda of most agents (make the highest quick commission they can) is in conflict with your interests, and most of them are fairly unprofessional as anybody off the street can become an "agent". Do not be pushed into any apartment or any situation you feel uncomfortable with. Take your time. For 3 years, get the right apartment the first time if you can. I suggest that you enter into a 12 month lease only, with renewal privileges. Sometimes things happen and you want to leave yourself an exit position and the ability to move on. The apartment may not turn out to your liking, your situation may change, etc. etc. Or some external factor like building construction on the next door property could intervene. Leave yourself wiggle space. At any rate, rents in Beijing are not rising so fast (if at all) that you run much risk of being stuck at renewal time with a huge rent increase. Highly unlikely.

You many need to have more than one agent looking, as the system here is fragmented and inefficient. Some apartments are in some sort of central database accessible by multiple agents, but many are listed by landlords with exclusive or very few agents. Your first agent won't like the competition, but that's tough and that's the real estate business here. Just keep a notebook record of what units you look at, and to prevent future arguments, only look at a specific unit with one agent--if another one wants to show you the same unit, say "No, I've already seen it with a different agent, what's next on your list?" If you really like a complex but not the unit one agent showed you, call up another agent and specifically ask if they have "any 2 BR's in Complex X"--chances are good they might, and it will be different unit(s).

Also look beyond the unit itself--at the grounds, noticeboards, condition of common hallways, etc. It can tell you a lot about the way the place is managed. In Beijing, quality Management is often all that stands between your peace, comfort, and sanity, and residential chaos. In general, the stricter they enforce rules and regulations, the better for your quality of life. (Well, at least this is the position a lot of foreigners take.) It is instructive to visit your finalist properties in the early evening when people are coming home and you can see who's living around you. This can be done alone and without agent if you don't need to see interior of unit again. I've done these reconnaissance missions and crossed a few things off my list after doing this. Sometimes it's a gut-feel thing.

If you find the perfect unit but the furniture is a little tatty or poor taste, ask the agent to inform the landlord and see if anything is negotiable. Lots of landlords will replace furniture and appliances with new stuff, especially if it's a bit old or in poor repair. And if new, often they'll let you pick out, or pick out style, or whatever. Never hurts to ask.

I have just concluded an apartment search (moving within the city), and had to get 3 agents...which was a bigger hassle but allowed for more coverage, faster. For comparison, in about 5 days I looked at 16 apartments within about 6 different complexes. Which for me is unusually small (previously in Beijing, I've been known to look at 40-50 different units in 10-12 places before selecting...but I'm extraordinarily picky). And remember, you may not get everything on your wish list but have to compromise on one or more aspects. Just make sure you don't compromise on the top priority criteria.

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