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Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

While the hounds are out digging for the rotten carcass of our resident Failoser and Boeing Employee of the Month, Matthew, I've been paying attention to some mentions that Eton Kids is not the professionally, high quality international education establishment many think it is.

So, with that in mind, has anyone here ever sent their kids there, and been left with a bitter experience? Have you or someone you know worked there, and been treated badly or seen bad practices take place?

Let everyone know what you know!

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

I don't have any personal experience, but I can verify that they somehow managed to get a website blocked by the GFW that contained some unhappy parents' complaints.

I read the website in question via a proxy and the complaints struck me as reasonable and legitimate; it did not at all seem to be someone simply grinding an axe.

I pointed out on the Beijing Kids website that this seemed quite dishonest to me, and if they were willing to be dishonest about that, they're likely untrustworthy about other things.

To me, using guangxi or whatever means they used to block someone airing a legitimate concern is a much bigger red flag about Eton Kids than the complaint itself.

My post on Beijing Kids was deleted, by the way, which I also consider a red flag.

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#1...it is a kindergarden after all, do you expect them to learn Physics there? Become grammitical genius after 2 months? Chinese folks place too much expectations upon their children and when they dont see immediate results, who do they blame?? It must be the teacher's fault my kids is dumb as rocks, It sure isnt the lead paint chips he eats everyday.

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What website MK?, I'm interested in reading.

Edit: found it... http://etonkidsbeware.com/

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I don't remember; search the Beijing Kids forum for Eton and you should be able to find it.

Assuming it hasn't been deleted, which is very possible.

This was a good 3-4 months ago when I saw it there.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

Yeah, I'm reading the site now.

I'm also hoping to get some more up-to-date info.

For sure, this thread won't be deleted. Cowboy

A very smart man wrote:

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

here's the story, from what i can tell: A parent got enraged because their child got hurt on the playground.

Parent then went on a rampage to discredit the entire school chain, with the same kind of intensity of those people who post all day about Daniel Brenar.

Parent has long ago left China

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

FKNG DANIEL BRENAR ISRAELI CHRIST KILLER. RAPED AND CHEATED MANY WIMMENS IN PHILIPINES AND PREGNATED JAPANS!!!

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

admin wrote:
here's the story, from what i can tell: A parent got enraged because their child got hurt on the playground.

Parent then went on a rampage to discredit the entire school chain, with the same kind of intensity of those people who post all day about Daniel Brenar.

Parent has long ago left China

You could be right, admin, but take a look at that website; she seems more than reasonable and she's added links to many, many complaints from Chinese parents.

Yes, she might be displaying robertfail-style stalker tendencies, but she's clearly much more skilled at it.

Are all these parents "on a rampage"?

Still, I'm well aware that parents will complain about the most trivial of things. If that was the end of it, I'd probably be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But going out of their way to block a website that criticizes them is the scary part of this story. They've lost all credibility with me whatsoever by doing this.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

admin wrote:

Parent then went on a rampage to discredit the entire school chain, with the same kind of intensity of those people who post all day about Daniel Brenar.

Admin dood, that guy is a criminal, deported from the Philippines for his actions there, and still posting ads on this site under more user-names than UFC/Boeing Matt and RB put together.

But in other news, fair enough. If people have positive things to say about Eton, please also do so here.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

^ there may be more to the story than that, but I am unaware of it ...

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http://house.focus.cn/msgview/882/83107560.html

http://news.yzwb.net/sh/200911/t20091112_697913_1.htm

http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/free/1/1524683.shtml

These are links to (Chinese) reports of what happens at Eton Kids, and their allegedly false claims.

Again, nothing more recent though, so if you do know anything that's happened this year, let us know.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

Apparently, Eton was sued last year, because of a breach of contract, involving a pregnant teacher who didn't get their maternity pay.

For once, the teacher won.

Party

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

All I have heard is that it is in no way affiliated with the famous Eton of England-

(On a side note-Why don't the American's have any famous high schools? Always wondered that.)

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

blucat wrote:
All I have heard is that it is in no way affiliated with the famous Eton of England-

(On a side note-Why don't the American's have any famous high schools? Always wondered that.)

No, they do just use the name, with no license or accreditation. I'll have to look into why Eton of England, doesn't have a problem with that.

On your side note, maybe due to the age of the schools? But it's a good point. Yale and Harvard are as famous as Oxford and Cambridge, but i can't think of any high schools that are comparable to Eton. Maybe because the Royals go there?

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

Thank God! I thought this thread was started by some pedophile pervert scoping out new venues.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

xenophon wrote:
Thank God! I thought this thread was started by some pedophile pervert scoping out new venues.

No, no UFC/Matthew, who works at Boeing Beijing, on this thread.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

EtonKids management are allegedly very into blackmail, extortion and using their vast wealth to silence people through the courts, according to various sources that have contacted me in the last 24 hours.

The intrigue continues to deepen.

But as I said, I'm just as interested in hearing positive stories as negative experiences. Don't be shy people.

There's always PM's. Wink

A very smart man wrote:

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

Who are the managers/owners? I mean, foreign or Chinese? I'm guessing Chinese...

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--Charles de Gaulle

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Vivien Wang (Managing Director)

Elizabeth Li (Vice President)

Charmaine Soh (Academic Director & Director of EMTTA)

Marlene Barron (Standards Adviser)

From the EtonKids website.

Funny thing is, from all the whispers I've heard, about how bad the school is, there is practically nothing online to suggest so. No forum post, no blog entries, no warnings what-so-ever.

Either these people who claim Etonkids is EvilInc, are lying, or they aren't making much of an effort to tell people about it.

Curious.

A very smart man wrote:

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

HuanChu wrote:
Vivien Wang (Managing Director)

Elizabeth Li (Vice President)

Charmaine Soh (Academic Director & Director of EMTTA)

Marlene Barron (Standards Adviser)

From the EtonKids website.

Funny thing is, from all the whispers I've heard, about how bad the school is, there is practically nothing online to suggest so. No forum post, no blog entries, no warnings what-so-ever.

Either these people who claim Etonkids is EvilInc, are lying, or they aren't making much of an effort to tell people about it.

Curious.

Or they are very good at cleaning up online criticisms. I think that much was already proved by their being able to block that one anti-Eton website within China.

By the way, Huanchu, you do realize PWanker is our Robbie, don't you? No good can come from engaging him.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

blucat wrote:
All I have heard is that it is in no way affiliated with the famous Eton of England-

(On a side note-Why don't the American's have any famous high schools? Always wondered that.)

On top of that, Eton is accredited by an American Montessori organ (ams).

As for then name "Eton kids". It's only a name.

... and school names in general. I think theyre all b.s. brand names. The most rewarded school at home is located in a semi-ghetto-like suburb, whose students have a generally negative outlook on life. The organization behind the school is however really, really good. I dont think any of these upper-middle class schools are as capable.

Similar things with ivy league universities. These universities have great results in scientific results. But for some reason, people think that if they have great scientific results, their professors are great teachers, which is not a necessity at all.

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Monkey King wrote:
HuanChu wrote:
Vivien Wang (Managing Director)

Elizabeth Li (Vice President)

Charmaine Soh (Academic Director & Director of EMTTA)

Marlene Barron (Standards Adviser)

From the EtonKids website.

Funny thing is, from all the whispers I've heard, about how bad the school is, there is practically nothing online to suggest so. No forum post, no blog entries, no warnings what-so-ever.

Either these people who claim Etonkids is EvilInc, are lying, or they aren't making much of an effort to tell people about it.

Curious.

Or they are very good at cleaning up online criticisms. I think that much was already proved by their being able to block that one anti-Eton website within China.

By the way, Huanchu, you do realize PWanker is our Robbie, don't you? No good can come from engaging him.

You can dig into any school and you'll find sh*t that has happened.

It's often the case that "school reviews" are exaggerated and often emotionally motivated. I don't trust them. There are always two sides of a story.

More often than not, school reviews deal with complicated conflicts that you need to have observed yourself in order to make a fair judgment. A school review just isn't that good unless it's a real school report, written by professionals whose job is to evaluate schools. So take reviews and warnings with a grain of salt.

Personally, i think it's better to do it the other way around: Look for recommended schools.

Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

Monkey King wrote:
admin wrote:
here's the story, from what i can tell: A parent got enraged because their child got hurt on the playground.

Parent then went on a rampage to discredit the entire school chain, with the same kind of intensity of those people who post all day about Daniel Brenar.

Parent has long ago left China

You could be right, admin, but take a look at that website; she seems more than reasonable and she's added links to many, many complaints from Chinese parents.

Yes, she might be displaying robertfail-style stalker tendencies, but she's clearly much more skilled at it.

Are all these parents "on a rampage"?

Still, I'm well aware that parents will complain about the most trivial of things. If that was the end of it, I'd probably be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But going out of their way to block a website that criticizes them is the scary part of this story. They've lost all credibility with me whatsoever by doing this.

But, what proof do you have that that website was blocked for that reason. Without proof to back it up, this whole thing sounds like conspiracy theory.

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I remember reading quite a few a while back.

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TheIncredibleEgg wrote:
Monkey King wrote:
admin wrote:
here's the story, from what i can tell: A parent got enraged because their child got hurt on the playground.

Parent then went on a rampage to discredit the entire school chain, with the same kind of intensity of those people who post all day about Daniel Brenar.

Parent has long ago left China

You could be right, admin, but take a look at that website; she seems more than reasonable and she's added links to many, many complaints from Chinese parents.

Yes, she might be displaying robertfail-style stalker tendencies, but she's clearly much more skilled at it.

Are all these parents "on a rampage"?

Still, I'm well aware that parents will complain about the most trivial of things. If that was the end of it, I'd probably be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But going out of their way to block a website that criticizes them is the scary part of this story. They've lost all credibility with me whatsoever by doing this.

But, what proof do you have that that website was blocked for that reason. Without proof to back it up, this whole thing sounds like conspiracy theory.

I understand what you're saying.

But after checking out that website, I can't think of any more logical reason that it would be blocked in China than that Eton has some juice with whoever makes those decisions.

Granted, logic doesn't always mean much here.

But you've got an unsatisfied parent who's presented her case rationally and reasonably, as well as researched numerous other complaints from Chinese parents, and her website is accessible everywhere except inside China itself.

Sometimes 2+2 does equal four.

"China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."
--Charles de Gaulle

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Monkey King wrote:
But after checking out that website, I can't think of any more logical reason that it would be blocked in China than that Eton has some juice with whoever makes those decisions.

I have a more logical reason - a good chunk of the worlds largest websites, including blogging platforms by one of the largest corporations on earth and the worlds most popular social networking site are blocked in china. In fact thousands of sites that are inaccesible here are not blocked due to their own content but rather because they are hosted on a server/ip that is blocked.

I seriously doubt the people who run the great firewall bother with individual blocking requests.

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admin wrote:
I seriously doubt the people who run the great firewall bother with individual blocking requests.

But, it would be very possible that someone at Eton Kid's cousin, or friend works for that very department, and has their finger on the button so to speak. This is Chinarrr and that is how it works.

Sometimes the same is different, but mostly, it's the same.

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What is really strange is that this is a conspiracy thread and pi hasn't posted. Think Eton got to him? Maybe turned him...or worse?

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Small update, with regards experiences at Etonkids campuses in Beijing;

http://www.globaltimes.cn/www/english/metro-beijing/update/society/2010-...

A very smart man wrote:

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Re: Any experiences with Eton Kids school??

in the interest of journalism, I'd like to ask:

Quote:
Talking on condition of anonymity, six teachers who reported their experiences at some of the city's 10 Etonkids kindergartens said they feared identification

Six teachers?

That's a massive number of anonymous sources.

Are you telling me that six different people -- all of whom have been "ripped off" and speak of "classroom atrocities" -- will say the place is sh*t but not one of them is willing to speak on the record about it?

Suspicious. Or a wildly coincidental streak of mass cowardice.

got 'em on the rats, though

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