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Latest Kindle - Anyone tried it?

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B003...

Released a few months ago, seems like the latest Kindle has been getting a lot of good press, but wondered if anyone in China had actually used one.

It offers both WiFi and free 3G connectivity, to both purchase new books and browse the Web, but I can't find anything that tells me whether either of these features would actually work in China.

So if you have one, or have tried one, please let me know.

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Works fine over here but the smallest version doesn´t automatically reflow pdf´s which sucks.

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The kindle is kinda cool but ultimately too pricey compared to competitors who don't force you to buy content.

My main beef with them is that you need to stick to Amazons proprietary bullshit format.

IE: they make you pay for everything, even content you already own in a different format.

At least they opened it up so you can read PDFs on them now.

I own an iRiver "Story", it reads PDF, EPUP, and DOC amongst others. I have not yet encountered a format it wont read.
It even reads CBR, CBZ etc for comicbooks if you're into that.
Basically the main advantage here is that you can just download a book straight from the net and stick it on there with zero bullshit.

I have 4 gigs of books on there right now that I got from torrents. I don't even know how many that is! (thousands?, at least a thousand)

Other supposed advantages of the kindle are it's 3G and online functionality.
You may differ in opinion here, but basically I see little advantage to this.
Chances are there is already at least one device on your person with the ability to surf the net.
The main reason for this is to ease the process of purchasing books from amazon.
I believe in the states the 3G coverage may come free with the Kindle but as for here? I don't know.
Doubtful.

My iRiver has never actually run out of power despite going weeks between charges so I can't say how it holds up to the kindle, which is probably also excellent in this regard.

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Ultimately, the most important thing, and the thing that is coolest about ereaders and e-ink is that you can read anything anywhere with all the comfort you would get with reading a book.
You can have a thousand books in your pocket without the bulk or eye-sore of a laptop.

-The Kindle forces you to pay for anything you put on there but has more functions.
Or at least convert it to the correct format for a small fee.
Even doing a simple usb transfer to your Kindle involves first sending a file via the internet (with the new exception of PDFs which can now be sent directly)

-Other brands may have less functions but allow you to read anything you please.

Oh, worth mentioning that the Story has some periphery functions that I never use, such as the ability to edit documents and listen to OGG, MP3, WMA files via an on board speaker or a headphone jack.
I suppose if you're into audio books or music when you read this would be good.

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shambhala wrote:
Works fine over here but the smallest version doesn´t automatically reflow pdf´s which sucks.

Which one do you have?

And when you say it works here, do you mean it can connect to the Amazon website and download books? And can you access the Web in general with it?

Because on the Amazon site, it says it doesn't offer content in China.

A very smart man wrote:

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I´ve the small wifi-only one. works smooth, easy access to internet and amazon etc. I´ve over 30Gig of ebooks so don´t really feel held hostage by amazon. The only problem I have is that, compared to the iriver and some others (that are less smoothly operated; I have one too), the Kindle does not have automatic Pdf reflow.. Meaning you can enlarge your pdfs but basically if you want the text to be readable you´ll have to scroll left-right the whole time.. Sucks. It´s possible to email your pdfs to your own amazon adress and they´ll convert them (for a price). Never tried that, but the one book I test-bought at amazon was reflowed and perfectly readable. Hope that makes sense to you, tired as hell.

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Cool, looks like I'll be picking one up on my next States-side trip.

Thanks for the info.

A very smart man wrote:

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A neat machine!

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Let us know what you think when you pick it up.

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I don't get it. Why not just use Stanza on an iphone and not have to carry about another gadget?

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I received an Ipad as a gift with the intent that I would use it to read, but I really wish now that I had gotten a kindle instead. I know that sounds incredibly ungrateful, but the Ipad is still sitting in the box. Sad

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iztel wrote:
I don't get it. Why not just use Stanza on an iphone and not have to carry about another gadget?

Because e-ink is so much more comfortable to read.
An iphone is also quite small to read a whole book on.

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Everything so far has been mixed reviews. I was ready to oreder a Kindle or another e-reader, but think I'll hold off and continue ordering the physical books.

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Aier2 wrote:
iztel wrote:
I don't get it. Why not just use Stanza on an iphone and not have to carry about another gadget?

Because e-ink is so much more comfortable to read.
An iphone is also quite small to read a whole book on.

I read a bit on it and e-ink seems really interesting. I also read it only uses power when you turn the page which is very cool. I'll check it out at Best Buy when I get back to the states. I guess my only gripes with it are the price and size. It's fine for a woman to put into her purse but I don't want to have to carry a manbag for this thing. I wonder if they could do something like the Nintendo DS and have dual monitors so it can fold in half.

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YunRui wrote:
Everything so far has been mixed reviews. I was ready to oreder a Kindle or another e-reader, but think I'll hold off and continue ordering the physical books.

I agree with the idea of physical books, and enjoy their 'presence' a lot more than another gadget, but now I'm back to traveling almost full time again, as well as thoughts of individual efforts towards a paper production-less society, it just seems a good choice.

Also, after extensive research, seems that both wifi and 3G are fully enabled in China (accessibility withstanding) as long as you register a suitable address from a suitable country/location (i.e. US, UK, HK.)

Another interesting point is that software is available that can apparently easily convert many widely used ebook formats into those that are used by the Kindle, which should make actually getting books/comics that I want, much more convenient.

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They do come in pretty small sizes.

It's true, they only use power to refresh the page, content already displayed uses no power - hence such amazing battery life on most models.

There are e-readers on display in many places in Beijing if you want to check them out, there are several Chinese brands that are actually of good quality but similar price to foreign brands.

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HuanChu wrote:
Another interesting point is that software is available that can apparently easily convert many widely used ebook formats into those that are used by the Kindle, which should make actually getting books/comics that I want, much more convenient.

Yes but will you have to do this one by one or can you convert a batch at once?
You can fit a lot of books on a kindle, are you going to convert a couple of thousand books individually?

I can see your heart is already set on it though, and it is cool.
It's also the sturdiest of the ebooks I've played with.
Let us know how you get on.

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Thanks for your input HuanChu and Aier2, but I'm a bit dense when it come to technology. Can you (or anyone) come up with specific recommendations that beat ordering the actual books?

Stay Hungry!

Pain is a requirement, not a curse

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HuanChu wrote:
paper production-less society

what does that mean? it still take like 60 liters of water to make one tiny silicon chip. and think about all the kindles that will just be in the non-biodegradable trash pile when something better comes along.

geez, what's wrong with a normal book? do you really read 400 books at once and are so far away from a bookshop that you can't buy another book? and that place that's so far away still has electricity, and the correct power point so you can charge your kindle?

i like books, the smell, the cover art, the shockingly different-from-your-mental picture photograph of the writer..

Trust me, it's so danger.

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nanananayeah wrote:
HuanChu wrote:
paper production-less society

what does that mean? it still take like 60 liters of water to make one tiny silicon chip. and think about all the kindles that will just be in the non-biodegradable trash pile when something better comes along.

geez, what's wrong with a normal book? do you really read 400 books at once and are so far away from a bookshop that you can't buy another book? and that place that's so far away still has electricity, and the correct power point so you can charge your kindle?

i like books, the smell, the cover art, the shockingly different-from-your-mental picture photograph of the writer..

Well, I'd never thought about it like that, so thanks for making me consider such factors.

But to answer you, no, I don't carry that many books, but the books I do like to read are quite large and heavy sometimes, so it will be nice to be able to carry them conveniently, especially when travelling abroad.

As for being far away, it's not always possible to get the books I want sent from the US or England, and they actually have quite a small selection in Beijing (not counting buying pirated books on the streets) so yes, owning a Kindle will give me much easier access to the books, magazines and comics I want to read.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think many Kindles, or any current generation gadget really, get blown off to the side all that much when people get something new. More common, at least in my experience, is that people will pass on their old devices to friends and family, sell them, or use them as 'trade in' on something new.

I would like to see a comparison of the environmental impact of the Kindle, versus book production, as I think it would be very interesting. I do agree with what you said, that the feel and smell of a new book is very appealing, but I do think tablets and ereaders are the way forward in publishing, just as CD's and mp3's have been for music. But with regards your figure about how much water is used in silicon production, I don't know your source, but this article seems to put it a little differently, indeed indicating that there is a greater and greater move towards production water recycling.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/semiconductors/processors/how-much-wa...

But again I am, interested in hearing more about your thoughts on this, and if I have made a comment in error, please let me know.

@YunRui

As has been said many times, one of the biggest advantages is the Kindles size, both in terms of internal memory, which can store upwards of 3000 books, and it's actual dimensions, which put it at weighing less than a real paperback.

If your just an occasional reader, or someone who just likes to read on the sofa or in bed, then a real book will probably suit you fine. But for someone who travels/reads when out and about a lot, gets through a lot of books, always wants the latest books as soon as they come out, then I think the Kindle (or similar ereader), with it's free for life 3G internet access as well, is a good investment.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

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Electronic waste is definitely a big problem in America. There are places that will recycle old phones and computer parts though. If the law legalizing marijuana passes in California then trees wouldn't need to be used for all paper anymore. Hemp paper is a much better alternative for books and would create tons of jobs in both the agricultural and paper making industries.

My problem is the books I like are computer books and graphic design books. Have you seen the size of these things? This is why I never read books on my commute. Magazines are tolerable though, less thick and can be rolled up.

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If there is something wrong with it, how will you repair it in China?

Comfortable.

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I've been researching ebook readers and quite a few ebook hobbyists say that the K3 has a much clearer display than other ebook readers.

I had been debating buying a Hanlin v3+, which are also very well reviewed, but think that I'll want to do a screen comparison first.

There are K3 (wifi only) available on taobao for not much more than the price in the States, but they seem to be questionable…the sellers often say that they can't be registered with Amazon.

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El Macho wrote:
There are K3 (wifi only) available on taobao for not much more than the price in the States, but they seem to be questionable…the sellers often say that they can't be registered with Amazon.

They are right, sort of. To register with Amazon, you need an address in the country where your particular machine is from. I'm not sure if any random address would work or not, but possibly for the majority of Chinese people, having a registrable address wouldn't be easy.

A very smart man wrote:

Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

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The reason I've thought they might be less than legit is that the "unregisterable" ones have also been the cheapest…

The listings will look like this:

官方标配:亚马逊单机标配Kindle3 (不可注册) 1180元
套餐三:亚马逊Kindle3单机标配(可注册) 1380元

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why is a kindle called a kindle? is it supposed to ... kindle... your desire for reading? Nerd

Trust me, it's so danger.

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How about a 10.1-inch Netbook (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB HDD, BT, 9 Hour Battery, XP Home)?

Comfortable.

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What Do You Think of a small laptop?

Comfortable.

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i have been thinking about it and no, just, no. there is no reason to have a kindle unless its academic and there's some reason you can't take 1000 books with you, like you are on site at a archaelogical dig or something. even then, can you even see pictures/diagrams?

you can't take it to the beach, can't read it in the bath, can't write a note in the sleeve and give it to someone as a present, you can't make notes on it (well, maybe you can i don't know?), if its a cook book, you can't spill food or get grease on it.

NO.

Trust me, it's so danger.

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nanananayeah wrote:
you can't take it to the beach, can't read it in the bath, can't write a note in the sleeve and give it to someone as a present, you can't make notes on it (well, maybe you can i don't know?), if its a cook book, you can't spill food or get grease on it.

Wrong on all counts.

I don't know if you can make notes on the kindle but on my e-reader you can. I've taken it to the beach, I've used it while cooking and I would have full confidence in my ability not to drop it in the bath - but I don't have one (Do you?).

I have spilled food on it once or twice and cleaned it no
problem.

I don't know about you but I like having a large library with me everywhere I go.
If the novel I'm reading is a bit heavy for the mood I'm in I like having a wide choice of alternatives.

BTW -yes you can of course see pictures and diagrams.

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*sigh* yeah, i guess. i agree with all the points you PMed me too, but it still feels unneccesary to me. like something everyone is going to get their mum or dad for christmas because they can't think of anything else. probably because i usually only read one book at a time and growing up every shelf was covered in books.

Trust me, it's so danger.

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Can't think of anything else?....it's not socks or something sh*t like that!

Well I don't know about my parents but I would love an e-reader for christmas if I didn't already have one.

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