Hi-
How much money would an expat need to make monthly to live a comfortable life in Beijing. I know the city is actually incredibly expensive - with one of the highest costs of living in the world - but is there any way to cut corners? Thanks.
u can cut corners really good get a cheap flat behind 4th ring (1 room) for like 3000-4000 yuan / month. eat half chinese and half western food.. would be like around 300 yuan per week , so 1200 in a month
water/gas/air condition would be arround 500 per month ( air condition is rly expensive)
going out and other buying stuff would be another 1000 yuan
so in total i think as a single person u can live very good for
7000 yuan ! sharing a flat will get u even cheaper ( i skipped health insurances because i dont know how u want 2 handle it)
one of the highest costs of living in the world? lol ,if you ever lived in other cities like Toyko or NYC, you won't say so
I know everything is cheap here, i dont get why people think it is expensive. unless they go to starbucks everyday and only buy western things then it cant be dear to live here.
edinburgh and london are way more expensive than bj
I've never been able to go below 10,000 per month,l and i usually just eat street food because it uses good oils that make your muscles grow faster.
eating street food because it uses good oil??!! OMG are you kidding???!!! they are not use good oil , is not even cooking oil, is extracted from dead animials !! My Jesus !!! it cann't make your muscle growth, it make you getting cancer .....
one of the highest costs of living in the world? lol ,if you ever lived in other cities like Toyko or NYC, you won't say so
I know everything is cheap here, i dont get why people think it is expensive. unless they go to starbucks everyday and only buy western things then it cant be dear to live here.
edinburgh and london are way more expensive than bj
low incomes high living cost, live standard is low here...
one of the highest costs of living in the world? lol ,if you ever lived in other cities like Toyko or NYC, you won't say so
I know everything is cheap here, i dont get why people think it is expensive. unless they go to starbucks everyday and only buy western things then it cant be dear to live here.
edinburgh and london are way more expensive than bj
low incomes high living cost, live standard is low here...
I can't speak for the Chinese people but even the lowest paid foregners here, who get - perhaps - 5,000 plus accommodation could save money every month if they wanted to.
I don't think Beijing has on of the highest cost of living in the world, there are lot more expensive cities than Beijing, but I think for the high price that we pay in Beijing we don't get our money worth.....
Gullekian
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Beijing is ranked 20th for 2011, and was 16th last year. I don't know why everyone thinks Beijing is so cheap unless you eat street food everyday, only wear fake clothes and live in Tongzhou...
Beijing is ranked 20th for 2011, and was 16th last year. I don't know why everyone thinks Beijing is so cheap unless you eat street food everyday, only wear fake clothes and live in Tongzhou...
It says the index of cost of living is based on US$, and if the US$ weakens against the local currency, the city goes high in rank....
So for my opinion, the survey doesn't make sense, just because the RMB has a stronger value against the US$ doesn't mean it should be considered high in cost of living index.....
Look at the facts, the average salary for an office staff in beijing is around 4000 to 5000 RMB, and yet they are living very well, some of them even have a car....... show me a descent city where someone can live with 600 to 700 US$ a month.... in some countries such as Canada people get that much amount on welfare..........
Gullekian
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Beijing is ranked 20th for 2011, and was 16th last year. I don't know why everyone thinks Beijing is so cheap unless you eat street food everyday, only wear fake clothes and live in Tongzhou...
It says the index of cost of living is based on US$, and if the US$ weakens against the local currency, the city goes high in rank....
So for my opinion, the survey doesn't make sense, just because the RMB has a stronger value against the US$ doesn't mean it should be considered high in cost of living index.....
Look at the facts, the average salary for an office staff in beijing is around 4000 to 5000 RMB, and yet they are living very well, some of them even have a car....... show me a descent city where someone can live with 600 to 700 US$ a month.... in some countries such as Canada people get that much amount on welfare..........
1. OK dipsh1t, you don't have to use dollars, use effin bananas if you want. What else do you want to compare it to?
2. The OP is talking about expats in Beijing, not about the locals. Maybe this is why you get confused easily and it doesn't make sense.
3. According your link maybe the iPod index is more useful to your local wages:
Hours of work needed to buy an iPod nano:
New Yorker: 9
Beijinger: 73
4. Most of the locals that own homes either bought them when they were insanely cheap, up until recently (2k/m to 30-60k/m)....or were GIVEN to them by the government, universities, or companies. My ex-gf's family were all given homes. Mom, dad, grandparents.
5. Many locals are much, much more frugal than expats. Even a foreign student lives more extravagantly. Which means the cost of living is truly reflected.
2. The OP is talking about expats in Beijing, not about the locals.
Sorry to disagree with you, but if the issue here is about expats living in Beijing, then why did you bring up the cost of living index, that Beijing ranks No 20 globally......
The index of cost of living is based on total population and not just expats.......
BTW, I know many expats who find living in beijing is a lot cheaper than Hong Kong....... and many find Hong Kong a lot cheaper than UK....... so it all depends how much money someone is making.......
Gullekian
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2. The OP is talking about expats in Beijing, not about the locals.
Sorry to disagree with you, but if the issue here is about expats living in Beijing, then why did you bring up the cost of living index, that Beijing ranks No 20 globally......
The index of cost of living is based on total population and not just expats.......
BTW, I know many expats who find living in beijing is a lot cheaper than Hong Kong....... and many find Hong Kong a lot cheaper than UK....... so it all depends how much money someone is making.......
Jesus H Christ...you are almost as dumb on this website are you are on BJstuff.
1. Read the effing OP. He talks about expats.
2. Cost of living has nothing to do with population. You can live in a god damn town of 1 and a burger could cost a million.
2. Cost of living has nothing to do with population.
Very strange, never heard of this before.........
Cost of living is based on the spending of the population, if there is no population, there will be no cost of living........
Expatriates in Beijing represent a very minor percentage of the total population, so you can't base yourself on the spending of expatriates only......
Gullekian
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2. Cost of living has nothing to do with population.
Very strange, never heard of this before.........
Cost of living is based on the spending of the population, if there is no population, there will be no cost of living........
Expatriates in Beijing represent a very minor percentage of the total population, so you can't base yourself on the spending of expatriates only......
2. Cost of living has nothing to do with population.
Very strange, never heard of this before.........
Cost of living is based on the spending of the population, if there is no population, there will be no cost of living........
Expatriates in Beijing represent a very minor percentage of the total population, so you can't base yourself on the spending of expatriates only......
haha indian peoples brains are about as big as their d***. after they get circumcized.
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daviddaviddavid
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
u can cut corners really good
get a cheap flat behind 4th ring (1 room) for like 3000-4000 yuan / month. eat half chinese and half western food.. would be like around 300 yuan per week , so 1200 in a month
( i skipped health insurances because i dont know how u want 2 handle it)
water/gas/air condition would be arround 500 per month ( air condition is rly expensive)
going out and other buying stuff would be another 1000 yuan
so in total i think as a single person u can live very good for
7000 yuan ! sharing a flat will get u even cheaper
RemmyM
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
As cheap or expensive as you like.
Remmy be pimpin' in BJ, yo!
whereisshenmue3
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Is it really one of the most expensive cities in the world?
Compared to the UK everything seems dirt cheap.
maggie0608
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
one of the highest costs of living in the world? lol ,if you ever lived in other cities like Toyko or NYC, you won't say so
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whereisshenmue3
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
I know everything is cheap here, i dont get why people think it is expensive. unless they go to starbucks everyday and only buy western things then it cant be dear to live here.
edinburgh and london are way more expensive than bj
weagesdf
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
I've never been able to go below 10,000 per month,l and i usually just eat street food because it uses good oils that make your muscles grow faster.
They call me 撸撸.
I am Mr. 撸管
sosure
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
eating street food because it uses good oil??!! OMG are you kidding???!!! they are not use good oil , is not even cooking oil, is extracted from dead animials !! My Jesus !!! it cann't make your muscle growth, it make you getting cancer .....
sosure
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
low incomes high living cost, live standard is low here...
whereisshenmue3
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
I can't speak for the Chinese people but even the lowest paid foregners here, who get - perhaps - 5,000 plus accommodation could save money every month if they wanted to.
Dikran
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
I don't think Beijing has on of the highest cost of living in the world, there are lot more expensive cities than Beijing, but I think for the high price that we pay in Beijing we don't get our money worth.....
Gullekian
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dan4
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Beijing is ranked 20th for 2011, and was 16th last year. I don't know why everyone thinks Beijing is so cheap unless you eat street food everyday, only wear fake clothes and live in Tongzhou...
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Dikran
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
I guess you got your figures from this link: http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html
It says the index of cost of living is based on US$, and if the US$ weakens against the local currency, the city goes high in rank....
So for my opinion, the survey doesn't make sense, just because the RMB has a stronger value against the US$ doesn't mean it should be considered high in cost of living index.....
Look at the facts, the average salary for an office staff in beijing is around 4000 to 5000 RMB, and yet they are living very well, some of them even have a car....... show me a descent city where someone can live with 600 to 700 US$ a month.... in some countries such as Canada people get that much amount on welfare..........
Gullekian
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Sciency
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Ultra-cheap:
Utilities, cigs, beer/chinese liquor, street foods, public transport, haircuts, soda, tea, herbs
Moderately priced:
Chinese market food, taxis, restaurants, knock-off clothes, yunnan coffee
Moderately expensive:
Imported foods, fruit, cafes, rent, electronics
Very expensive:
Decent bars, real-estate, brand-name goods, cars
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
Dikran
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
It's strange you mentioned "imported coffee" as moderately expensive.....
I import coffee from Portugal, and I have them on sale now, selling the 400 gr @ 100 kuai,.........
Gullekian
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weagesdf
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Go f*ck yourself Dik
They call me 撸撸.
I am Mr. 撸管
dan4
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
1. OK dipsh1t, you don't have to use dollars, use effin bananas if you want. What else do you want to compare it to?
2. The OP is talking about expats in Beijing, not about the locals. Maybe this is why you get confused easily and it doesn't make sense.
3. According your link maybe the iPod index is more useful to your local wages:
Hours of work needed to buy an iPod nano:
New Yorker: 9
Beijinger: 73
4. Most of the locals that own homes either bought them when they were insanely cheap, up until recently (2k/m to 30-60k/m)....or were GIVEN to them by the government, universities, or companies. My ex-gf's family were all given homes. Mom, dad, grandparents.
5. Many locals are much, much more frugal than expats. Even a foreign student lives more extravagantly. Which means the cost of living is truly reflected.
Damn I'm hot. I'm on fire!
Dikran
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Sorry to disagree with you, but if the issue here is about expats living in Beijing, then why did you bring up the cost of living index, that Beijing ranks No 20 globally......
The index of cost of living is based on total population and not just expats.......
BTW, I know many expats who find living in beijing is a lot cheaper than Hong Kong....... and many find Hong Kong a lot cheaper than UK....... so it all depends how much money someone is making.......
Gullekian
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dan4
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Jesus H Christ...you are almost as dumb on this website are you are on BJstuff.
1. Read the effing OP. He talks about expats.
2. Cost of living has nothing to do with population. You can live in a god damn town of 1 and a burger could cost a million.
Damn I'm hot. I'm on fire!
Dikran
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Very strange, never heard of this before.........
Cost of living is based on the spending of the population, if there is no population, there will be no cost of living........
Expatriates in Beijing represent a very minor percentage of the total population, so you can't base yourself on the spending of expatriates only......
Gullekian
Today is the first day for the rest of my life
dan4
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Damn I'm hot. I'm on fire!
mjtaylor
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
It's cheap as all hell if you know what you're doing. Obviously, a lot of dumbf***s in this thread don't though.
Sciency
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
If there's no population the cost of living will be exactly *infinity*.
And that's just for air.
Be happy you live on Earth.
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
weagesdf
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
haha indian peoples brains are about as big as their d***. after they get circumcized.
They call me 撸撸.
I am Mr. 撸管
whereisshenmue3
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
But there wouldn't be anyone around to ask about it
haonewbags
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
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dan4
Re: Cost of Living in Beijing
Do you guys IP ban spammers?
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