Asian Women OR Foreign Women
I went through about 10 pages looking for this thread and never found it... so I figured I'd start one..
Since I'm back in the single scene again, I have been debating if I would like to get into another international relationship again... or steer clear of them & only see women who understand my type of culture as a native... in other words... Asian or Foreign women ??
Being in a relationship with someone who is in a completely different culture is not easy. I know this from experience. And for the long haul, I'm not convinced that having an Asian girlfriend would be a wise decision. I understand Brits, Irish, Scots, Aussies, Kiwis, S.Africans, Canadians, & Americans. The rest seems like a big jump, I think.
What are your thoughts ? I haven't decided yet. Again, intelligent thoughts, plz 
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<




zhenlai
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Only Asian women for me.
美国鬼子
jessica H
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Chinese women.
Chinese men are dirty, they steal, they spit, they dont shower.
Chinese women love white men
sexy beast
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I think the differences between women and men is a big problem too, you should find another guy who is from the same country!
This f-ing thing is slow as sh*t, can somebody just fix it...
JLW1974
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@ Sexy Beast: I assume that for response was for Jessica... because I said nothing to deserve that comment.
@ Jessica: And I'm not here to call people names. And racist comments against the Chinese isn't what I seek either. Have a little respect, please.
@ everyone else: Maybe it depends on the depth of each person. For example, if I want to have deeper conversations & connections with a woman, than perhaps native, English speaking women are the way to go.
It's an idea I have... though I'm not convinced, either way, yet.
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
chaofan
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Yep! way waste time with anyone else?
JLW1974
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Please elaborate...
Why Asian women ?
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
otto
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op, beggars can't be choosers. suggest you take any skank who will have you, or die alone
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
myfather
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yeah, you only have one such choice.
I met Obama in person.
blackgrey
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If can do one thing, would be great.
submissimus
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if you live in china you should learn chinese.
JLW1974
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WOW.. okay.... really guys ???
Here's me... I have traveled to 16 countries & lived in 6 of them. I know what it is like to live in another country & start from zero. I know more about adapting to cultures than many of you know how to use the squat toilets. So, spare me the silly "you'll adjust" type of comments.
Why do you prefer Asian women over Foreign women ???
Talk to me...
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
Yoho
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Really to be honest Asian women seem more loyal to their men than their Western counterparts. Say, 1960s style.
My buddies wife is a stay at home mom currently. So she's a little busier than usual. But pre-child days dinner was always ready. Lunch was always ready. The house was clean. Etc. She doesn't bitch about it. She doesn't use sex as a bargaining tool. She is just plain awesome. She buys beer for him and surprises him when she brings it home. He can go out for beers with me without her bitching about him going out for beers. She loves him dearly.
However in some respects she's not a normal Chinese girl.
Now, I will admit that a Western (American) woman can do all of this. But in all my past relationships and also my friends it's the direct opposite.
Sex is something you have to do, it's used to get the man to clean. Guys can't be guys. Etc. A far cry from the 50s.
Anyway. His wife knows that we are men. She wants her husband to be a man. Bring home the bacon. Father her children. She knows he looks at other girls, she does too. But she also knows that he is coming home to her every night and that he would never cheat. She knows that late dinners with the boss are the norm. KTVs with customers are to be expected. Maybe she even knows that there are girls there. But she also knows that he will come home every night and take care of her and her mother.
I personally like the way family is here in Asia. Well, except the ruling your life type of thing. But the man is the man, the women takes care of the house, etc. 1950s..
Again, I've found that once a traditional Chinese girl falls for you.. Well, they will never let go... Or I should say that it seems like they will never let go. Who knows.
Sciency
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Asian women, non-mainland Chinese asian women however. That mentality of theirs is too ingrained. Non-chinese ways are, in their minds, just wrong. And there's no fixing it.
It's like the air they breath, and they can't see otherwise no matter what arguments they are presented with.
I guess if you could get her out of this country for a few years she might come around. But why start from scratch? There are plenty of beautiful women from other Asian countries that haven't undergone the brain-washing of mainland chinese, and aren't as demanding/childish/ignorant/utterly self-centered.
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
JLW1974
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Yeah, I have noticed that over here they are desperate to get married... like, almost all of them. WOAH. And from what I've observed, I can see both your sides. The divorce rate has increased in China a lot these past 10 years. So, that's alarming.
And like you said Yoho, I can also see how there still quite a few Chinese women who would be "that" type of woman in a marriage.
Since you know a little about me... that part is definitely appealing. I am tired of being with weak women who have no backbone to survive tough moments in life. But then again... I might be completely ruined on marriage anyways. So, I'm not sure if I'd want to go the married route again - if I "feel" they're loyal or not.
A few things I will say in favor of Asian women are that they are usually thinner, feminine, sexy, & practical.. all rolled up into one. Actually, an Asian friend, who's a woman, told me that.. and she's right. I have noticed that part.
It's not to say that Foreign women aren't & it's not fair to generalize to a certain extent. But in my American female experiences... I could never get that combination into one girl. Since western women are driven to be independent, they act more like men, with each passing decade. And more than half of them seem to have "men issues" & hate their daddy, etc, etc, etc... or they've been treated like a princess & they have an unrealistic view on men & living with them in a married format.
So... I will give that against western women & the little I know about Asian women. I mean, I did live in S.Korea for 1.5 years... but that wasn't a very real experience because I was too young to understand that I should mix & integrate with the culture more.. and I missed a potentially good experience.
But I was a soldier & they hated us there.. so not sure how far that would have gotten me anyways... lol
Good comments, though.
There's pros & cons about both sides.
I have heard that Asian women are BOSSY when you have them as a girlfriend or more. And, dear god, I hate bossy women. So I wonder about that.
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
submissimus
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there are roughly 650 million women in china. china is such a diversified country, there are all kinds of living styles co-existing, so if you speak chinese, there is a good chance that you find exactly the type of girlfriend you like.
if you don't speak chinese, the choice will be much more limited.
in any way, its the personality and chemistry that is important, not the nationality.
i married a chinese girl many years ago, she is bossy, independent, physically and mentally strong, probably not very typical chinese. i like her exactly the way she is. its like a male wolf meeting a female wolf, much cuddling and also much biting.
perhaps one advantage of marrying a girl from china: some (definitly not all) of them incorporate the wisdom of 5000 years of chinese culture. even after many years, live with such a woman is still interesting, you will never run out of conversation topics and feel that everyday you can learn something new from her.
submissimus
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there are roughly 650 million women in china. china is such a diversified country, there are all kinds of living styles co-existing, so if you speak chinese, there is a good chance that you find exactly the type of girlfriend you like.
if you don't speak chinese, the choice will be much more limited.
in any way, its the personality and chemistry that is important, not the nationality.
i married a chinese girl many years ago, she is bossy, independent, physically and mentally strong, probably not very typical chinese. i like her exactly the way she is. its like a male wolf meeting a female wolf, much cuddling and also much biting.
perhaps one advantage of marrying a girl from china: some (definitly not all) of them incorporate the wisdom of 5000 years of chinese culture. even after many years, live with such a woman is still interesting, you will never run out of conversation topics and feel that everyday you can learn something new from her.
Yoho
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Some more good points. Chinese women come off as being women. They wear high heels, skirts, dresses, like to be a lady. Most I would say enjoy men looking at them. American women, well, again from my limited view point, would call you a creep for admiring a sexy women. They don't wear heels often, act like dudes, etc.
And now for the bad. Usually Chinese women are the head of the house. Most dudes I think give their wives the paycheck and then get an allowance. Again, I'm not 100% sure.
Yes their views are limited. But, you have to remember I'm, or we're not going to marry a farmer that I just clubbed over the head. She has to be open to other cultures and or moving back to America.
As for 5000 years of culture, well, that's debatable. I will however concede to the fact that, they are thrift and know how to get by. For instance baijiu on the forehead can help reduce a fever, or something like that. Those things however are mostly learned by being poor, I would imagine.
Chinese women seem to never forget a damn thing. That time you forgot the milk, you'll never forget it. Once they find out that they can do something, they will. For instance American guys do the dishes, or like to cook, well, then you are expected to do as such.
There is also the problem, or more specifically the cultural difference in the area of parents. If her parent's don't agree then your most likely out. So her parent's either have to be dirt poor and have not option but to let her marry you and then have a better life, or they have to be open enough to allow their only daughter and child to marry a foreigner. Then you have to take care of them.
I actually had a buddy who married a Chinese girl. She is pretty open by Chinese standards. Her parents wanted 100,000RMB or about 15,000USD as a dowry. Why? Well, they wanted to buy a house for her little brother. So, I personally don't agree with that, so if that ever happened to me, well, it's going to be a problem. Oh, and my buddy's wife told her parents how it was. So she isn't the most typical of Chinese girls.
Anyway, there are lot's of women out there. Not one of them is the same. But these points are stereotypical for no reason. Just don't date any of them. Because BF/GF means marriage.
blackgrey
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^^
If can do one thing, would be great.
JayBeijing
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Both. At the same time.
JLW1974
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Yeah, I hear ya on that one. I try to make it clear that I'm not looking for a GF at the moment. And it's not because I prefer the life of a single, ONS king. Because that's really not my thing. I mean, I wil enjoy my singleness, no sh.t. But I've always been a relational type of guy, honestly.
Again, I will play the cards I have been dealt
..what else am I going to do ??? ...lol
I guess I really am understanding you guys a bit better. I was curious why the guys here say Asian women are the only way to go. I thought that was a bit narrow, honestly. And there's more to life than just sex. But you guys make a good case of them. And their cons.. well.. again, the foreign women have their cons too... as do I, frankly.
This is some pretty good stuff, I have to admit.
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
eleven_w
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That's an easy and difficult question.
The simple answer would be: it doesn't matter to be asian or foreign woman, you'd better be with somebody who you fall in love with, and who you feel comfortable with.
It will be easier to find a local woman since you are in China, and compare with foreign women, Chinese women are softer, and in a better shape. But if it is considered to be a serious relationship, you'd better prepare there would be a tuff period at the first year or 2, most of the culture conflicts will come out (most of them are no right or wrong), both of you have to find a way to compromise (this is not easy, many of the couples end up at this stage). And then you also will face a problem of the location/country where finally you 2 wanna settle down, not all of the Chinese could like to move to another country.
eleven_w
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That's an easy and difficult question.
The simple answer would be: it doesn't matter to be asian or foreign woman, you'd better be with somebody who you fall in love with, and who you feel comfortable with.
It will be easier to find a local woman since you are in China, and compare with foreign women, Chinese women are softer, and in a better shape. But if it is considered to be a serious relationship, you'd better prepare there would be a tuff period at the first year or 2, most of the culture conflicts will come out (most of them are no right or wrong), both of you have to find a way to compromise (this is not easy, many of the couples end up at this stage). And then you also will face a problem of the location/country where finally you 2 wanna settle down, not all of the Chinese could like to move to another country.
KZ
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I thought only racist will decide the dates by their race. No that I hint you are one, but just stick to the one you love to spend the time with.
Bottlenecking
JLW1974
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The thread is about whether I want to date an Asian woman or a Foreign woman... in other words... I can't decide because I'm open to other races... fyi d.ckhead
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Sciency
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What kind of answer do you expect putting forth a question based on logical fallacy?
According to you the world's supply of females is divided into "Asian Women" and "Foreign Women".
As though Asia is a country, and non-asians are somehow "foreign".
Why don't you just specify "Chinese Women"? Then the "foreign" aspect will make some kind of sense.
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
JLW1974
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Probably because there are other asian cultures living in China & the best contrast, in my opinion, is the difference between Asian women & Foreign women
There's a thought, aye ?
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
Sciency
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Well then, that's quite a perspective you've got. I think most folks can find significant enough linguistic, cultural, religious, racial, whathaveyou differences between Chinese, Afghani, Eastern Russian, Iranian, Khazakstani, Israeli, Indian, Malaysian, Filipina, Pakastani, etc women to not be lumping them all together into a single people. It's the largest and most diverse continent on Earth fer pete's sake!
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
JLW1974
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If you don't like the thread... don't read or post in it. Deal with it.
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<
Sciency
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Asia is not a country, doofus.
Something you should have learned by fourth grade.
Go deal with *that*
Galaxies don't move Sciency. They're in a fixed position.
JLW1974
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I love people like you... trying to flex their intellectual muscles on me.
Okay... let's play ball...
Asia is an official region on the f.ckin map. Read it sometime.. it'll surprise ya. It happens to be the region we live in, even. And, I have every right to create a thread that implies a contrast on where we, generally, live against those who are not from this general region.
For good forum discussion, it's good to keep some subjects rather open so that we may hear various opinions from various points of views about the various cultures within the contrasted, generalized regions at subject.
So... the title is correct. There are many different cultures in Asia, no sh.t
.... and I would fair to say that there are many cultures being implied under the generalized term of "Foreign women".
Thus... I have created an appropriate thread with an appropriate title.
You don't like the generalization ? Well, that's life. Again, deal with it. =D> =D>
>>>an intelligent mind is nothing without an intelligent heart<<<