Everytime I talk to an educated Chinese person,

Everytime I talk to an educated Chinese person, they always tell me about how much they hate their country and that they want to leave. When I talk to one that is from small town, less educated and less open to new ideas it is exactly the opposite. They think they live in the best country in the world.

For that second group of people, whenever I say anything about China, they get so mad an defensive. I will just ask them something to help understand their culture and they will get very mad. Like "why do they close exits and make the lines longer on the streets when there are more people?" Simple harmless question, their response is usually "you don't need to be here, you can go back to your country"

What's wrong with them? They must not really like their country if they are so defensive about it. If someone says something about America, I will just be like "ok". Thats it, just their f-ing perspective.

releasemetomato wrote:

I believe social achievements and progress are made by well-educated ones. So my suggestion is ignoring less educated and talking to more educated.

Please tell me you were not educated in China.

As you said they are less educated people , so why do you care? I believe social achievements and progress are made by well-educated ones. So my suggestion is ignoring less educated and talking to more educated.

fammira wrote:

releasemetomato wrote:

As you said they are less educated people , so why do you care? I believe social achievements and progress are made by well-educated ones. So my suggestion is ignoring less educated and talking to more educated.

your view is not just wrong (if you are educated, you should think about some history and reconsider it), but also quite alarming.

I'm trying to provide an alternative to make people feel less uncomfortable which is also my own way to face the reality.
As to find the root cause of it and even fix it, i have to say i am not that educated.

weagesdf wrote:

Everytime I talk to an educated Chinese person, they always tell me about how much they hate their country and that they want to leave. When I talk to one that is from small town, less educated and less open to new ideas it is exactly the opposite. They think they live in the best country in the world.

For that second group of people, whenever I say anything about China, they get so mad an defensive. I will just ask them something to help understand their culture and they will get very mad. Like "why do they close exits and make the lines longer on the streets when there are more people?" Simple harmless question, their response is usually "you don't need to be here, you can go back to your country"

What's wrong with them? They must not really like their country if they are so defensive about it. If someone says something about America, I will just be like "ok". Thats it, just their f-ing perspective.

That's generally valid.

Based on my personal observation, Chinese people in general are quite defensive, partly because of the culture and majorly caused by the propaganda which make people here less informed.

One personal example was: Back to the summer of 1989, and I just started my primary school, I didn't know exactly what the riot's about. But the teachers in school kept holding meeting even among to babble how vicious those rioters are, how desperately they wanted to jeopardize the "socialism in China", that was in a f-ing primary school for god's sake. Back then, I was quite, if not really, anxious, because in my perception, the rioters is bringing Capitalism, in which kids have no enough food and adults jump off the building all the time because of bankruptcy.

Alas, but who should we blame, the brainwashers or the brainwashees.

Thanks to the technologies, like internet or weibo, people are much better informed thus could think more rationally and independently. I'd say the potential of damage from nationalism/xenophobia is definitely much weaker than 5 or 10 years ago.

OP, I encourage you to talk and communicate with more and more these 2nd type people, with some subtle way of course(so you won't get hurt).

The United States of America is the greatest country in the history of the world.

Everytime I talk to an educated Chinese person, they always tell me about how much they hate their country and that they want to leave. When I talk to one that is from small town, less educated and less open to new ideas it is exactly the opposite. They think they live in the best country in the world.

For that second group of people, whenever I say anything about China, they get so mad an defensive. I will just ask them something to help understand their culture and they will get very mad. Like "why do they close exits and make the lines longer on the streets when there are more people?" Simple harmless question, their response is usually "you don't need to be here, you can go back to your country"

What's wrong with them? They must not really like their country if they are so defensive about it. If someone says something about America, I will just be like "ok". Thats it, just their f-ing perspective.

No, it is not.

Sorry I meant that the US is not the greatest country in the history of the world, in my opinion.