Oregon Goes Full Retard

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The hippy-dippies have now made it into law that you get to "choose" your gender on state issued ID, with a third option of "non-binary," meaning neither gender or both or who the fuck knows. Now they're saying that there are over 200 genders to choose from, and it doesn't stop there. Some people are fighting for the right to have their other psychotic delusions validated by society at large, like their belief they are fox or a dolphin or a stapler.

Apparently it's really anything goes now. The next time I get pulled over and the officer addresses me as "sir," he's going to be in for a scalding rebuke! (and probably a lawsuit)

"I identify as a meta-gendered astral unicorn, officer, and you WILL address as me such!" are the words that will be screamed in his face with ample spittle. "Look, it even says so on my driver's license."

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I wonder how that's going to work with passports. Other countries might take issue with incorrectly specified gender information and consider them invalid, being still stuck as they are in the whole out-dated concept of gender dualism determined by if you're born with a wee-wee or a hoo-hoo. They need to learn there's nothing bilogically inherent about gender and that, rather, reality is entirely forged out in the magical realm of unfettered imagination.

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Just three sexes, M, F and X, simple.

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

Waqaroptimist wrote:

Just three sexes, M, F and X, simple.

What is X?

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M for Male, F or Female and X for the person who doesn't want to be called M or F.

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

lol X- not identified gender. I want to visit US, must be much fun over there )))

I stopped fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now )))

We get it. You're conservative. You hang out in safe spaces for conservatives like Conservapedia and Conservative Tribune. What else is new?

Meanwhile, in reality, there are (clearly) more than 2 genders. You can either revise your beliefs to reconcile that fact, or you can't.

nothing conservative. Its just the matter of acceptance . In reality personnaly I dont care if someone thinks he or she is a mouse or X-man from planet Y-chromosome. Would sound weird to me but ok if those people feel fine with that. But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

I stopped fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now )))

Catwoman wrote:

nothing conservative. Its just the matter of acceptance . In reality personnaly I dont care if someone thinks he or she is a mouse or X-man from planet Y-chromosome. Would sound weird to me but ok if those people feel fine with that. But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

When I said, "We get it, you're conservative," I didn't mean you.

Catwoman wrote:

But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

They aren't "making laws," they're merely giving people the option to not identify as M or F. It's not that big of a shocker. And sure there are "more important" problems to solve. This issue solves a small problem for some people, and that the same doesn't stop anyone from solving any of those more important problems. American conservatives get their emotions all disturbed over a little change that doesn't even affect them. They are frustrated that reality does not conform to their stupid biases.

Catwoman wrote:

nothing conservative. Its just the matter of acceptance . In reality personnaly I dont care if someone thinks he or she is a mouse or X-man from planet Y-chromosome. Would sound weird to me but ok if those people feel fine with that. But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

Not the whole US. This law is implemented in just one State, Oregon.

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

ok, I will go to Oregon then. ))

I stopped fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now )))

The funny thing is that I'm really not conservative. If you listen to my actual positions you'll find that I'm highly:

pro-environment (Favoring rational real-world policies, not down with the leftist extremism and fanstasy over the matter.)

pro-personal freedom (The fed under Obummer severely over-regulated the public and boosted the NSA's domestic spying program exponentially.)

anti-war (More rabid warhawks being worshipped by snowflakes than republicans.)

anti-slavery (Slavery is thriving in the modern world and US policy turns a blind a eye, since dem campaign donors profit from it. Also, the income gap widened more under Obummer's aegis than any other president, so the whole socialist scam is a load of malarky to begin with.)

income disparity (The left will create more entitlements and tax me more to pay for them -yet I will receive none of the dividends. Sorry, I'm ain't your slave either, nigga)

I'm not a republican. Like most thinking Americans, I understand that Congress is filled with bought-out filth on both sides of the aisle. The problem now is that the left promotes a party that exacerbates all these things. It intentionally stirs up conflict and division; it is entirely fueled off of lunacy. They have become hateful, destructive, violent fanatics, which I hardly feel is the right way forward.

You ask me to accept that there are more than two genders? I don't. Transsexuals and other deviants have a much higher rate of mental illness and commit more sex crimes. Post op gender swappers have a stunningly high rate of depression and suicide.... because they are living in a delusion. Believing you are not the gender you were born as is much a mental illness as would be believing you are a toaster or a pokemon or marrying a goat. It's sad and destructive, and hardly something to be celebrated. Making laws that try to force society to validate some freak's pyschotic delusions is idiotic, idiotic as giving your 12 year old child hormone therapy and breast implants because they've decided to identify as the other gender. (And possibly get you charged by child protective services in Canaduhr if you don't go along with it.) What would otherwise simply be a phase becomes a life altering path that leads to suicide in a very high number of cases. Insane people believe things that aren't true. They need help, love, and guidance, not validation of their delusions.

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Basically I believe in most of the things the looney left *thinks* they espouse. In practice, it's all the opposite, including racism. The Dems use minorities as their personal political chess pieces. If you think they really give any kind of shit, think again. There's nothing empowering about giving a group entitlements and special rights. It actually sends the message that they're inferior.

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Waqaroptimist wrote:
Catwoman wrote:

nothing conservative. Its just the matter of acceptance . In reality personnaly I dont care if someone thinks he or she is a mouse or X-man from planet Y-chromosome. Would sound weird to me but ok if those people feel fine with that. But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

Not the whole US. This law is implemented in just one State, Oregon.

Not really a law. Just a policy, no?

Sciency wrote:

You ask me to accept that there are more than two genders? I don't.

You don't believe in hermaphroditism? Do you think they should mark M or F on their ID?

Hermaphrodites can fuck themselves.

I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean, some of them actually *can* fuck themselves, as in "have the ability to do so."

Anyway, your argument, as always, is silly. Hermaphrodites are still born male or female, though sometimes possessing the sex organs of both genders.

In any event, they still didn't *choose* it. It's a birth defect FFS.

It's only in extremely rare cases one gender or the other is not naturally dominant. And such people usually don't want to advertise it and are not insisting that the law and the English language get completely bent over the matter.

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I know a lady who's husband has two weiners. She's says they both work too. (Though not both at once.)

I can see how that would be handy. If one starts to peter out, tag in the other.

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wjh wrote:
Waqaroptimist wrote:
Catwoman wrote:

nothing conservative. Its just the matter of acceptance . In reality personnaly I dont care if someone thinks he or she is a mouse or X-man from planet Y-chromosome. Would sound weird to me but ok if those people feel fine with that. But to make laws...its ridiculous to me too. I think US as well as other countries has other (more important ) problems to solve.

Not the whole US. This law is implemented in just one State, Oregon.

Not really a law. Just a policy, no?

I think politicians are called lawmakers too, so that must be a law. Blum 3

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

My wife keeps my nads in her jewelry box.

Catwoman wrote:

ok, I will go to Oregon then. ))

Okay. Smile

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

atomicneon2 wrote:

My wife keeps my nads in her jewelry box.

Does she wear them out on special occassions?

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I'm soooo pissed. The checkout lady at the supermarket didn't recognize my status as a metagendered astral unicorn lord this moring. I'm fkn sueing her, the store, and the state government. Nowhere on my drivers license is my metagendered astral unicorn lord status displayed. Not only do we need our own restrooms, but specialized medical services as well. Forcing us to visit "human being doctors" is like saying "fuck you, we don't really believe you are a metagendered astral unicorn lord," a grotesque violation of one's inalienable right to have their imagination-farts validated as real by every facet of society.

Sure everyone could, like, just go by their birth genders on documents like what's always been done since the documents are simply asking for gender not sexual orientation or imagination-farts, but that wouldn't be a huge enough circus of liberal absurdism to distract everyone from the stuff that actually matters.

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I think the only thing that's silly is your inability to accept reality. For 98% of people, M or F is sufficient. For 2% of the people, M or F is insufficient.

Sex/gender is biological. It was not invented by human beings, nor does the limited understanding of one human being, or even 98% of human beings, change the fact that 2% of the people don't fall under XX or XY chromosome binary.

In addition to XX and XY, there can also be XXY, XXYY, X, XXX and true hermaphroditism with fully both sets of ovarian and testicular tissue.

As I said, you can either accept reality, or you can't. Sex/gender is more complicated than you are, obviously, aware.

I guess whether you're going to love and care for these 2% of people who aren't like you, or make jokes about them, depends on who you are.

It's extremely rare and hardly worthy of kicking up a fuss over. I know a hermaphrodite. He's a married dude with a child. Othertimes it's a someone who is clearly estrogen dominant and female, but can't conceive due to misdevelopment or a genetic anomaly Your 1-2% is BS cuz that majority have the clearly dominant traits of their gender even if there's an extra part thrown in there through a developmental error. Some people are born with two heads, but that doesn't mean it's supposed to happen or that we have a new gender or species on our hands. The cases where they can't figure out someone's gender are miniscule. This line you want to muddy is about as irrelevant as it is insignificant anyway. This is about delusional people choosing their gender, not the teensy fraction of a fraction of a percent where it can't be reliably identified as a result of a genetic/birth defect. (Pls stop pretending like such errors are some new gender. They ain't.) The other 99.999% are stuck with an absolute gender from birth and are delusional to believe they have a choice in the matter. Your sexual proclivities play no part anyway. It doesn't matter if someone's gay or doesn't like sex or whatever. Those are their preferences, not their gender. Gender is binary, m/f. Nature/God/whathaveyou did NOT design our species with any other genders. Period.

Sure one can declare themselves asexual til the cows come home to roost, but unless they can divide their body and replicate themselves it's horseshit.

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Where's the harm in letting that 1-2% of people choose something other than M or F? Why does the issue even warrant your attention? It has nothing to do with you.

Oregon is opening up their gender identification choices to more than M/F. You can either handle that, or you can't.

Doesn't matter if it's rare. Doesn't matter if you don think it's worth your time. Doesn't matter if you happen to know a hermaphrodite or how he presents.

Of course the Oregon issue is broader than the 2% of chromosomal anomalies. I only mentioned the 2% because you said you don't believe there are more than two genders.

No one is forcing you to recognize a new gender (or "species," as you so retardedly put it).

This conservative talking point you want to make a culture war out of is about as irrelevant and insignificant as it is ignorant.

You're like those dumbfucks in Chinese banks who don't understand how anyone's name can have more than 3 characters.

wjh wrote:

Of course the Oregon issue is broader than the 2% of chromosomal anomalies. I only mentioned the 2% because you said you don't believe there are more than two genders.

There aren't. Hermaphrodites are botched males or females not some new gender, sheesh. Just like siamese twins and two headed babies aren't some new race of humans. How thick can your skull possibly be not to understand this?

Sex/Gender would be meaningless without reproduction. There's no need for other genders, and therefore they do not exist. You've espoused your atheism in here so I'm guessing you subscribe to evo theory? (Another load of horseshit too but not one I'm inclined to debunk again for 100th time ATM, so I'll just roll it with since it still suits the purposes of this discussion.) Under evo, why oh why would your Spaghetti Monster deity create more than two genders when the evolutionary purpose of gender is procreation? Does evo have an impetus to create creatures that cannot survive and reproduce? (And for the fourth fkn time, many hermophrodites can, according to the functions of their, gasp, GENDER.)

This new "gender" you imagine hermaphrodites as being serves no purpose under evolution (or theism or common sense.)

Some insects have castes that don't reproduce (yet those drones are still binarily gendered). Humans do not. That's fact jack and I'm pretty sure you know it already. Duhhhrp!

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Sciency wrote:

There's no need for other genders, and therefore they do not exist.

That's the most idiotic thing you have ever said, and the most idiotic use of the word "therefore" in history. You're just shitting words out of your ass now.

Sciency wrote:

Under evo, why oh why would your Spaghetti Monster diety create more than two genders when the evolutionary purpose of gender is procreation.

You display an earthworm's understanding of evolution by mutation and natural selection. Stick to imbecilic remarks and leave the science to the scientists.

genetics is really interesting. It was like 15 years ago or so i was going to Moscow by train and there I met a scientist who has been breeding foxes in my city for long time and was going to Eka to make a visa for some scientific symposium in US. She told me that they have been breeding foxes at their center and those domesticated foxes were really like dogs (its been like 3-4 generation), all the behaviors were like dogs. But the most interesting things is that changes happened also on genetic level (which could be useful for the whole humandkind I mean those discoveries, observations etc). So I do wonder what happens to people once we change our life style, partners , countries whatever what is so-called being stable. What really (!) happens on our genetic level? is that possible if our genes have the memory which can influence not only us but also our kids for instance? in one word if there is some really phycological impact from what we do or how we live on our genetic code ...?

I stopped fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now )))

Nature doesn't conform to our taxonimical system. (Rather, the onus is on us to refine our system to nature.) Where I'm from the wolves recently returned after a couple centuries of absense and started banging the coyotes. Now we've got wolfoyotes running around everywhere. It all remains in the same allele group though. Microevolution in action, not macro. Macroevolution has never been replicated and has no observational evidence in the fossil record. What the fossil record shows is species staying the same within their allele groups for vast, vast swaths of time and then suddenly being replaced by new "species" all at once, so quickly that there are no transitional forms to be found.

There was an interesting experiment some years back by some german scientists who fertilized different organisms in a static electric field. What they produced were ancestral forms of trout and corn that could be found existing at earlier points in time in the fossil record. It seems that the current electromagnetic enviroment of the Sun's heliosphere has a lot more say in how creatures get churned out than does evolution theory.

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