Huge Sinkhole Emerges near Shuangjing

A huge sinkhole emerged near Shuangjing Friday night, leaving a crater 20 square meters and shutting down traffic on Guangqu Lu.

Photos of the site show a hole estimated as 10 meters deep, 800 meters west of the East Fourth Ring Road's Dajiaoting Bridge. The site had a similar cave-in in 2013. The area is along the construction route for Line 7 of the Beijing Subway. The hole is close to the Carrefour and B&Q stores east of Shuangjing, south of Beijing City International School. Carrefour was also the site of a fire in 2013 that resulted in the store's temporary closure.

Repairs were expected to be completed by the end of the holiday weekend.

Photo: China Radio International

 

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For those who don't remember, a woman, in April of 2012, fell through a hole in the sidewalk, into a boiling pit of water, 99%of her body was burned, with burns all the way into her organs. It's time for Beijing to stop this madness, before someone else gets killed because of their unqualified planners.

Moral of these stories? Don't walk on sidewalks, or drive on roads.

Yeah but still, if roads are collapsing, i'd rather not be on them.

Likewise, if the subway tunnels were collapsing, I'd not want to be on them, either

 

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yeah, i was just poking fun. But still, the collapse of a road isn't indicative of the poor quality/safety of the subway that is built underneath it, it's indicative of the poor quality of the road.

I guess my point was that the quality of the roads above the subway construction are actually the responsibility of the subway companies. And if the subway companies are not able to keep roads from collapsing during construction--or at the very least, not able to identify when/whether roads are weakening and need to be closed temporarily for public safety--that doesn't give me great confidence that their safety measures will be much better when that new subway line actually opens. It's the same company responsible for both safety of roads weakened by subway construction and safety of the subway itself.

It's a trust issue, I guess. And sinkholes above subway lines don't give me much confidence in the people building the subway.

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Poor quality of the road...? I feel that most of Beijing's roads generally do fairly well, at least with sinkholes, as long as one doesn't burrow massive tunnels beneath them. The condition of the roads above ground are actually part of the subway construction safety--few if any of Beijing's roads were constructed with a view toward having a subway built beneath them someday. Keeping those roads intact if they're still open for public use IS part of the subway construction companies' mandate. They hire guys (supposedly) to deal with just that... watching out for if/when the subway work is making the roads above ground unfit for traffic.

I'd say that the sinkhole last Friday rendered that road unfit for traffic. And I wouldn't go blaming the road for it, a road that was doing quite well until someone went and dug a huge hole underneath/nearby.

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This is why I try not go to outside if at all possible.

britomart wrote:

But... the sinkhole was created by construction for the subway. If this is happening while the subway is still under construction, it doesn't bode well for the safety of the subway line itself once it's up and running. I think that was the logic bluefish was going for.

 

yeah, i was just poking fun. But still, the collapse of a road isn't indicative of the poor quality/safety of the subway that is built underneath it, it's indicative of the poor quality of the road.

 

 

 

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But... the sinkhole was created by construction for the subway. If this is happening while the subway is still under construction, it doesn't bode well for the safety of the subway line itself once it's up and running. I think that was the logic bluefish was going for.

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bluefish wrote:

This is why I refuse to take the subway for any reason.

there's logic for ya.

The sinkhole is in the road, which means motorists, bus riders and bicyclists are most at risk in this sort of disaster

 

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This is why I refuse to take the subway for any reason. And of course when the earthquake that we're a couple decades overdue for comes, a lot of us are going to die.

Oh. WOW. I was riding my scooter just north of that bridge on Friday evening. What time did that happen?

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While it is great that public transportation via subway in Beijing is convenient and cheap, there is always this feeling gnawing at the back of my mind that within the next 5-8 years the entire city of Beijing will collapsed under the strain of so many high rise, and fhe tunnels burrowed for so many subway lines criss-crossing so closely to one another ---- construction and civil engineering technology has not reached the high standards and calibre they ought to be in China + the Chinese saying of "tou gong, jian liao" which is subsstituting cheaper quality materials for the higher price -- the result naturally would be a situation much like Towering Inferno, except that it's not fire due to poor electrical wiring, but sub-standard civil engineering.

I shudder for all these1st tier cities racing to build blindly are sending these cities into their graves. I hope I wont be here to see it. I shudder even more to think when this happens, how many would be trap in the underground....

What kind of engineers does the city have working in the planning department? Probably cheated on their exams.

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