Only yesterday I read James Altucher's thoughts about coronavirus, economy and media's role in where we are standing today. A must read, https://jamesaltucher.com/blog/economy-protests-virus

Giovanni Martini wrote:

hank9000 wrote:

Giovanni Martini wrote:

hank9000 wrote:

The good news: any relaxing of the rules is a move in the right direction, toward normalcy. Some day, perhaps in 2021 or 2022, we'll get there.

The bad news: it seems vanishingly unlikely, given the prevelance of Covid19 in myriad countries, that airlines will be able to avoid China's penalization scheme, at least any time soon (but by the autumn, who knows?). Will airlines somehow be able to provide real time testing with rapid turn-around that yields results four hours before takeoff? Merely showing up with a certified recent test result (even one that's only a day or two old) is obviously no guarantee a passenger hasn't subsequently become infected. Indeed, it would hardly be impossible for one to become infected in the airport itself, immediately prior to the flight.

I don't blame the PRC or any country for being hyper careful, for what it's worth. I just think we're quite a long way from reaching even a semblance of the old status quo with respect to international air travel. Which is dispiriting for those of us who are stranded. And I doubt transferring to a third party "approved" carrier is going to be an option any time soon.

Didn't you hear? The U.S. found a cure for the epidemic---it's called ignoring the inconvenience in favor of more eye-catching news, to wit the protests/riots. The editor-in-chief at CNN might win a Nobel Prize for medicine, he might.

Not exactly sure of what point you're trying to make. Are you suggersing that the media shouldn't cover a signifcant story regarding urban unrest, riots, police brutality etc in the USA? Seems to me likely that, as the protests eventually diminish, media focus will flag, too. And in any event the protests are happening in most Western countries now, so, the story isn't exclusively an American one. Indeed Chinese media seem to be fasicated, too.

Gods forbid I don't march in lockstep with opinion. In the world of tomorro---nay, later this afternoon, the lone unforgivable sin will be dissent from the approved narrative. May I suggest that such pariahs be branded with the term "Nardis"? As in dissenter from said narrative? Sort of like the new scarlet letter. Here, I'll bare my nether cheeks for the heated iron...

Actually my point was that the virus, while serious enough, was badly over covered. Even on days when nothing much happened, one got 24/7 fretting. Was nothing else happening in the world? Was non-stop hand-wringing achieving anything. Finally, was it worth throwing the economy under a bus to protect...well, people like me. Prime virus-fodder: aged sixty, high-blood pressure, etc. I think not. At the time of the Antonine Plague, Rome pushed into Armenia and Mesopotamia. We could scarce stick our (masked) noses out the apartment complex gates.

~~“Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” ~~.

Wonderful. I'm elated to see yet another sign of US multinationals ignoring Trump's brain dead China policies. It's also a sign they think he's very likely a one termer.

If, like his daughter, Trump had actually spent a bit of time in China before becoming president, he might know that, far from being "poor, vulnerable victims" of the "mean, cheating Chinese," in fact scores of US firms have been unbelievably successful in China. It's just that, because much of the product is sourced locally, their sales don't show up as US exports. Buit the profits are still claimed by shareholders -- most of whom are American! Not smart, Donnie.

Here's to better days ahead (starting 20 January) for Sino-US relations.

Giovanni Martini wrote:
hank9000 wrote:

The good news: any relaxing of the rules is a move in the right direction, toward normalcy. Some day, perhaps in 2021 or 2022, we'll get there.

The bad news: it seems vanishingly unlikely, given the prevelance of Covid19 in myriad countries, that airlines will be able to avoid China's penalization scheme, at least any time soon (but by the autumn, who knows?). Will airlines somehow be able to provide real time testing with rapid turn-around that yields results four hours before takeoff? Merely showing up with a certified recent test result (even one that's only a day or two old) is obviously no guarantee a passenger hasn't subsequently become infected. Indeed, it would hardly be impossible for one to become infected in the airport itself, immediately prior to the flight.

I don't blame the PRC or any country for being hyper careful, for what it's worth. I just think we're quite a long way from reaching even a semblance of the old status quo with respect to international air travel. Which is dispiriting for those of us who are stranded. And I doubt transferring to a third party "approved" carrier is going to be an option any time soon.

Didn't you hear? The U.S. found a cure for the epidemic---it's called ignoring the inconvenience in favor of more eye-catching news, to wit the protests/riots. The editor-in-chief at CNN might win a Nobel Prize for medicine, he might.

Not exactly sure of what point you're trying to make. Are you suggersing that the media shouldn't cover a signifcant story regarding urban unrest, riots, police brutality etc in the USA? Seems to me likely that, as the protests eventually diminish, media focus will flag, too. And in any event the protests are happening in most Western countries now, so, the story isn't exclusively an American one. Indeed Chinese media seem to be fasicated, too.

Giovanni Martini wrote:

Of course, unless the PRC lets non-Chinese in, it's hardly cost-effective for airlines to fly here. It's like letting 17 year olds buy beer as long as they don't open the bottles.

That depends partly on how many stranded Chinese there are who wish to return. It's probably a very large number, and therefore a sizable market. Also, you'd have to think if they're gradually relaxing lfight restrictions, a procedure for foreign residence permit holders will follow. After all, thousands of foriegners returned in February and March and yet China manged to successfully get the pandemic under control. My guess is late summer or auturmn, although admitedly that's just a guess.

I love the logic that the street vendors tarnish the image of the city with their terrible poverty-alleviating activities but all the abandoned building sites (Guosam Mall), ageing apartment blocks and crumbling sidewalks (or as the delivery drivers call them 'open roads') are just fine. Sure, having businesses operate in the hutongs was terrible and had to be stopped but all those 80s era neighbourhoods with rusting cages over every window? Nah, just fine 差不多 keep at it.

Pity the man too dense for satire.

All accents are equal, except some accents are more equal than others.

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dyanisis wrote:

1st they have to open the airports to accomodate the foreigners, but since this will be locally run, it to will go the way of Shanghai Disney or indeed the Dodo

Shanghai Disney is doing fine (outside of coronavirus time)

the positive for them this virus time, is that complaints are down, and not just some of the rides, all of them, at its optimum it was running at 60% but complaints were runing at 100%

if thats your idea of "doing fine" who needs it

dyanisis wrote:

1st they have to open the airports to accomodate the foreigners, but since this will be locally run, it to will go the way of Shanghai Disney or indeed the Dodo

Shanghai Disney is doing fine (outside of coronavirus time)

 

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Plenty in Guangzhou would pass on most of the words above, and a few of them too would be new words to the locals, but then again rascism is an imported ideaology that the locals dont entertain or practice.

Again to finish Kudos to the author another well thought out piece of garbage, must be nice to be a mouthpiece lackie

The good news: any relaxing of the rules is a move in the right direction, toward normalcy. Some day, perhaps in 2021 or 2022, we'll get there.

The bad news: it seems vanishingly unlikely, given the prevelance of Covid19 in myriad countries, that airlines will be able to avoid China's penalization scheme, at least any time soon (but by the autumn, who knows?). Will airlines somehow be able to provide real time testing with rapid turn-around that yields results four hours before takeoff? Merely showing up with a certified recent test result (even one that's only a day or two old) is obviously no guarantee a passenger hasn't subsequently become infected. Indeed, it would hardly be impossible for one to become infected in the airport itself, immediately prior to the flight.

I don't blame the PRC or any country for being hyper careful, for what it's worth. I just think we're quite a long way from reaching even a semblance of the old status quo with respect to international air travel. Which is dispiriting for those of us who are stranded. And I doubt transferring to a third party "approved" carrier is going to be an option any time soon.