... the rest of us who are merely renewing already existing permits will eventually be brought into the system over the course of the next year.
Question: So when my next contract comes due, will my employer have to apply for this new permit through a new system? Or is this A4 sheet what will show up the next time I get my foreign expert cert renewed?
I have gone to O'Bar over a dozen times to Smoke Cigars and have my afternoon business meetings with my high networth clients, and every time I have gone to O'BAR I have experienced mediocre Bar service. Not from the wait staff, but from the drink service staff.
I aways order top shelf Whiskeys or Rums, and 9 times out of 10, I keep sending my drinks back becouse the bartender adds machine made ice to my top shelf spirit. Machine made ice is used for mixed drinks, but not for top shelf spirits in which you need to use a BIG CUBE OF ICE.
Then from the 9 times out of 10, 50% of the time the bar staff, strains the top shelf drink that has been water down by the machine made ice and then adds it to the new glass with the cube ice, instead of poring a new drink. So then this 90 Rmb to 120 Rmb top shelf spirit, is all watered down and tasteless, including taken about 15 minutes to get back to me. And this has happen not when the venue is filled with clients that you can use the excuse that it's busy, but when there has been no more than 10 people.
Then over the past months I have seen the complementary snacks at O'Bar change from assorted nuts to CHEAP OLD POPCORN, that you get at the movies.
This type of experience is what I would expect at a sleazy bar joint in Sanlitun, but not at the Nou Hotel's signature lounge O'Bar, that boast the best service and that it's the most luxurious hotel in Beijing.
When I voiced my opinion to both the GM and the New Bar Manager they ignor my concerns.
"In the land of the blind, the one eye man is king" I have both eyes open and see right thought you, your service is subpar and mediocre...
This article is ridiculous for two reasons -- Firstly, this article is biased because this kind of behavior happens in many places around the world, and other places in Beijing or in China, so it's unnecessary to just focus on Beijing Airport, and also because people should use common sense. When I have just traveled around China domestically for a few days, maybe I had little enough stuff to use the metro; however, if I had more stuff or the subway was closed, I got on the taxi line like everyone else. It's really not a big deal. I've never had a problem with taxis from the taxi line. That's probably because I've just ignored those people trying to "offer" me a taxi. It’s common sense not to use cars like that. Anyone with some common sense would know that. Plus it really depends how far you negotiate them. I once had a friend that took one of those unregistered cars into the city center who offered my friend to pay 600 rmb, and we ended up settling on less than 100 rmb – close to 80 rmb, which isn't much different from a taxi, and so it is a question of how you handle the situation if you get yourself into such a situation. The point is that there was no point to this article. It doesn’t serve any good purpose.
I happen to be going to BJ Capital Airport tomorrow. I'll even go early and take pictures of the actual shuttle bus terminals and price lists and upload them here. You gotta get 'em in front of eyes though!
I forget if it's T1 or T2, but the waiting area I found is at the far righthand side of the terminal. Rows of seats. You do have to queue up for a minute or two prior to bus arrival, but they'll announce that, and people do tend to squeeze into the line, but again, it's not outside, and you don't have to stand. IANAJ (I am not a journalist), all standard disclaimers apply, but that's pretty much it.
Still. Why no correction? Why is the information not actually in the article? The shuttle bus is the obvious way to keep money out of the criminals' pockets, and the city government puts the complaint procedures in place so we can help them do their job. It works. When there's a proved violation, somebody pays a fine, and that hurts the mobsters right where it counts. You, sir, you yes you (I know of you, you probably know of me, if you don't ask, I'm not trying to hide but public space) control a platform of which the very raison d'etre is to bridge that last mile between the non-Chinese community and the city we live in. Tracy did very good translation and commentary on a very good report. But! You forgot to mention the solutions! Two exist!
That face Lewis Black makes when he gets incoherent! I'm making it!
"saysthis: Next time I travel red eye overnight with my 9-year-old daughter, two suitcases and two backpacks in tow as we did last week, I'll remember to disembark, and after spending an hour going through customs and baggage claim, suggest to my daughter we stand around in the sub-zero AQI 350 air for 30 minutes outside T2 waiting for the shuttle bus"
re: suitcases and backpacks, they have carts.
re: standing outside, it's actually an indoor lounge at T2. T3 and T1 are similar. You are not standing in a line. You get way more fumes and pollution in the taxi queue.
Admin, I've traveled with kids, not my own, but the bus worked. We actually turned it into kind of an adventure. You don't have to take the bus, you can take Didi/Uber, or anything else you might prefer. But neither option is even mentioned in this post! How to fight these taxis and how else to get home should be front and center.
I don't have kids, so I have time to have these conversations with people at the airport when I spend an hour going through customs and getting luggage. Pointing this out changes people's travel plans, and strongly influences people's first impression off the plane. Exhausted impotent rage vs. exhausted but begrudging acknowledgment that this country works somehow.
I don't know how you missed that. It's a stupefying ommission.
You guys can and do make corrections in articles, and you mannually vet every comment. You say you don't have the manpower in other posts, so I did some research and posted the links, but I don't control the platform. Hell, if you want to give me space and budget to translate those links, write a how-to, and run a complaint or two through the process where we all can see it, I will. The rest of your readers and I can't help if you don't open the gate. We're trying!
I'm sorry to keep harping on it, but 4000 pairs of eyes have read the article, maybe a few hundred scroll down to the comments. You have stats on that, I don't, but I know the general distribution. Now this article is already off the sidebar, but every taxi article you post from now on will link back to this. This article will persist for years, and the actual solution will stay buried deep in the comments, unless you make the correction.
txchick, saysthis: thanks for pointing these additional transportation options out. Good to know Didi can pick you up at the airport, that'll be the way to go for me next time.
saysthis: Next time I travel red eye overnight with my 9-year-old daughter, two suitcases and two backpacks in tow as we did last week, I'll remember to disembark, and after spending an hour going through customs and baggage claim, suggest to my daughter we stand around in the sub-zero AQI 350 air for 30 minutes outside T2 waiting for the shuttle bus
And yet somehow it remained standing, and was even rebuilt leaving the structure intact.
So, this begs the question, why did the 3 World Trade Center towers all spontaneously collapse at freefall speed leaving only a molten pile of rubble at it's base the was too hot to touch for weeks? Strange that.
Hmm, let's see:
One caught fire
The other got hit by a jumbo jet filled with airline fuel traveling at 500mph
And for the record, "Didi/Qunar/Baidu/Shenzhou/Uber" is 5+ separate occasions (a lot more than 5 actually) at departures at multiple terminals if you tell the driver where to meet you.
But I'm still the king of redeye flights and the shuttle bus. People deserve to know. It runs late night and it works.
And so does complaining about taxis. This is the least verifiable thing I have, but anecdotally, mostly through really angry, surprised text messages from drivers who thought we were "friends" I've taken despite the financial hit, I have it that the fines hit home. It doesn't stop them, but it hurts them. 和谐his sister, make the complaints mechanism transparent and obvious to other people please!
Yes, Didi/Qunar/Baidu/Shenzhou/Uber, as verified by me, however much you may trust me, will pick up at the airport. Officially they are limited to the parking lot, but you get on the phone with the driver once you're off the plane and they'll be in departures.
So still no correction of this entry about shuttle buses? And still no new entry about how to file taxi complaints? Not to be a schmuck, but you guys have 40k+ circulation in print alone. If anybody could make a dent in the tourist problem...
At present the workaround is consigned to p2 of the comment section. This user is displeased. If you need pictures, I have them. My profile email is valid. What's it gonna take?
Didi does pick up at the airport. They are currently restricted to picking you up in the garage, though. I was in T2 dropping off some visitors and I was told to go to Door 9, then cross over into the garage at Door 4 of the garage. The car was waiting nearby.
In T3 I've gone to the far end of the pick up zone, past domestic baggage claim, and met cars there.
Just because it has been renovated, doesn't mean the spirits have gone away. I've heard that 3 construction workers died in mysterious accidents during the renovation. And apparently half of the client fee paid to the construction team for materials, also , mysteriously disappeared, never to be seen again.
Missing money? Definitely haunted then.
Good luck to the company that rents the place in the future, there will be a lot of fun.
Re: We Just Got Our First Closeup of the New China Work Permit
Question: So when my next contract comes due, will my employer have to apply for this new permit through a new system? Or is this A4 sheet what will show up the next time I get my foreign expert cert renewed?
Re: O'Bar Brings You New Boozy Festive Drinks This Holiday...
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man does not go back to a place with bad service over a dozen times
Re: O'Bar Brings You New Boozy Festive Drinks This Holiday...
I have gone to O'Bar over a dozen times to Smoke Cigars and have my afternoon business meetings with my high networth clients, and every time I have gone to O'BAR I have experienced mediocre Bar service. Not from the wait staff, but from the drink service staff.
I aways order top shelf Whiskeys or Rums, and 9 times out of 10, I keep sending my drinks back becouse the bartender adds machine made ice to my top shelf spirit. Machine made ice is used for mixed drinks, but not for top shelf spirits in which you need to use a BIG CUBE OF ICE.
Then from the 9 times out of 10, 50% of the time the bar staff, strains the top shelf drink that has been water down by the machine made ice and then adds it to the new glass with the cube ice, instead of poring a new drink. So then this 90 Rmb to 120 Rmb top shelf spirit, is all watered down and tasteless, including taken about 15 minutes to get back to me. And this has happen not when the venue is filled with clients that you can use the excuse that it's busy, but when there has been no more than 10 people.
Then over the past months I have seen the complementary snacks at O'Bar change from assorted nuts to CHEAP OLD POPCORN, that you get at the movies.
This type of experience is what I would expect at a sleazy bar joint in Sanlitun, but not at the Nou Hotel's signature lounge O'Bar, that boast the best service and that it's the most luxurious hotel in Beijing.
When I voiced my opinion to both the GM and the New Bar Manager they ignor my concerns.
"In the land of the blind, the one eye man is king" I have both eyes open and see right thought you, your service is subpar and mediocre...
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
I love this logic: it happens elsewhere, so it's ridiculous to talk about it in Beijing.
I hear the same thing when we're talking about bad air. "Well London had poisonous smog in the 50s, so its unfair to talk about it in Beijing."
I suggest we all block our eyes and ears about anything unflattering about Beijing and pretend its not happening
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
This article is ridiculous for two reasons -- Firstly, this article is biased because this kind of behavior happens in many places around the world, and other places in Beijing or in China, so it's unnecessary to just focus on Beijing Airport, and also because people should use common sense. When I have just traveled around China domestically for a few days, maybe I had little enough stuff to use the metro; however, if I had more stuff or the subway was closed, I got on the taxi line like everyone else. It's really not a big deal. I've never had a problem with taxis from the taxi line. That's probably because I've just ignored those people trying to "offer" me a taxi. It’s common sense not to use cars like that. Anyone with some common sense would know that. Plus it really depends how far you negotiate them. I once had a friend that took one of those unregistered cars into the city center who offered my friend to pay 600 rmb, and we ended up settling on less than 100 rmb – close to 80 rmb, which isn't much different from a taxi, and so it is a question of how you handle the situation if you get yourself into such a situation. The point is that there was no point to this article. It doesn’t serve any good purpose.
Re: 2016 Year in Review: Beijing's Biggest Assholes
You call yourself "angry" in your username, and then complain about being called "bitchy?"
Which you weren't even unless you angrily bitched about the stupid beauty pageant.
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
I happen to be going to BJ Capital Airport tomorrow. I'll even go early and take pictures of the actual shuttle bus terminals and price lists and upload them here. You gotta get 'em in front of eyes though!
raison d'etre
Yes!
I forget if it's T1 or T2, but the waiting area I found is at the far righthand side of the terminal. Rows of seats. You do have to queue up for a minute or two prior to bus arrival, but they'll announce that, and people do tend to squeeze into the line, but again, it's not outside, and you don't have to stand. IANAJ (I am not a journalist), all standard disclaimers apply, but that's pretty much it.
Still. Why no correction? Why is the information not actually in the article? The shuttle bus is the obvious way to keep money out of the criminals' pockets, and the city government puts the complaint procedures in place so we can help them do their job. It works. When there's a proved violation, somebody pays a fine, and that hurts the mobsters right where it counts. You, sir, you yes you (I know of you, you probably know of me, if you don't ask, I'm not trying to hide but public space) control a platform of which the very raison d'etre is to bridge that last mile between the non-Chinese community and the city we live in. Tracy did very good translation and commentary on a very good report. But! You forgot to mention the solutions! Two exist!
That face Lewis Black makes when he gets incoherent! I'm making it!
Re: 2016 Year in Review: Beijing's Biggest Assholes
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We're not suggesting all Beijingers are bitchy -- just the ones who are complaining about the pageant contestant not being beautiful enough
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
Last time i took the shuttle (a few years back), the line formed outside -- they really have an indoor waiting lounge now?
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
Also, since I'm in keyboard warrior mode -
"saysthis: Next time I travel red eye overnight with my 9-year-old daughter, two suitcases and two backpacks in tow as we did last week, I'll remember to disembark, and after spending an hour going through customs and baggage claim, suggest to my daughter we stand around in the sub-zero AQI 350 air for 30 minutes outside T2 waiting for the shuttle bus"
re: suitcases and backpacks, they have carts.
re: standing outside, it's actually an indoor lounge at T2. T3 and T1 are similar. You are not standing in a line. You get way more fumes and pollution in the taxi queue.
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
Admin, I've traveled with kids, not my own, but the bus worked. We actually turned it into kind of an adventure. You don't have to take the bus, you can take Didi/Uber, or anything else you might prefer. But neither option is even mentioned in this post! How to fight these taxis and how else to get home should be front and center.
I don't have kids, so I have time to have these conversations with people at the airport when I spend an hour going through customs and getting luggage. Pointing this out changes people's travel plans, and strongly influences people's first impression off the plane. Exhausted impotent rage vs. exhausted but begrudging acknowledgment that this country works somehow.
I don't know how you missed that. It's a stupefying ommission.
You guys can and do make corrections in articles, and you mannually vet every comment. You say you don't have the manpower in other posts, so I did some research and posted the links, but I don't control the platform. Hell, if you want to give me space and budget to translate those links, write a how-to, and run a complaint or two through the process where we all can see it, I will. The rest of your readers and I can't help if you don't open the gate. We're trying!
I'm sorry to keep harping on it, but 4000 pairs of eyes have read the article, maybe a few hundred scroll down to the comments. You have stats on that, I don't, but I know the general distribution. Now this article is already off the sidebar, but every taxi article you post from now on will link back to this. This article will persist for years, and the actual solution will stay buried deep in the comments, unless you make the correction.
What's stopping you?
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
txchick, saysthis: thanks for pointing these additional transportation options out. Good to know Didi can pick you up at the airport, that'll be the way to go for me next time.
saysthis: Next time I travel red eye overnight with my 9-year-old daughter, two suitcases and two backpacks in tow as we did last week, I'll remember to disembark, and after spending an hour going through customs and baggage claim, suggest to my daughter we stand around in the sub-zero AQI 350 air for 30 minutes outside T2 waiting for the shuttle bus
Re: Five Years Ago Today: The CCTV Hotel Tower Burns
Hmm, let's see:
One caught fire
The other got hit by a jumbo jet filled with airline fuel traveling at 500mph
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
And for the record, "Didi/Qunar/Baidu/Shenzhou/Uber" is 5+ separate occasions (a lot more than 5 actually) at departures at multiple terminals if you tell the driver where to meet you.
But I'm still the king of redeye flights and the shuttle bus. People deserve to know. It runs late night and it works.
And so does complaining about taxis. This is the least verifiable thing I have, but anecdotally, mostly through really angry, surprised text messages from drivers who thought we were "friends" I've taken despite the financial hit, I have it that the fines hit home. It doesn't stop them, but it hurts them. 和谐his sister, make the complaints mechanism transparent and obvious to other people please!
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
Yes, Didi/Qunar/Baidu/Shenzhou/Uber, as verified by me, however much you may trust me, will pick up at the airport. Officially they are limited to the parking lot, but you get on the phone with the driver once you're off the plane and they'll be in departures.
So still no correction of this entry about shuttle buses? And still no new entry about how to file taxi complaints? Not to be a schmuck, but you guys have 40k+ circulation in print alone. If anybody could make a dent in the tourist problem...
At present the workaround is consigned to p2 of the comment section. This user is displeased. If you need pictures, I have them. My profile email is valid. What's it gonna take?
Re: 2016 Year in Review: Beijing's Biggest Assholes
Article of the Year, TBJ!
Yep, there's surely no shortage of assholes in Beijing.
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
Didi does pick up at the airport. They are currently restricted to picking you up in the garage, though. I was in T2 dropping off some visitors and I was told to go to Door 9, then cross over into the garage at Door 4 of the garage. The car was waiting nearby.
In T3 I've gone to the far end of the pick up zone, past domestic baggage claim, and met cars there.
Re: Local Journo Documents Extensive Fake Taxis Preying on...
I was under the impression that didi would not pick up at the airport -- can you order one and get picked up at the terminal?
Re: Exorcism Complete at Chaonei 81: Beijing’s Spookiest...
Good luck to the company that rents the place in the future, there will be a lot of fun.