Here's an update from Apple Insider:

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Update: Apple has confirmed in a statement to AllThingsD that it will delay sales of the iPhone 4S at retail locations in Beijing and Shanghai.

“The demand for iPhone 4S has been incredible, and our stores in China have already sold out,” an Apple spokesperson told the publication. “Unfortunately we were unable to open our store at Sanlitun due to the large crowd, and to ensure the safety of our customers and employees, iPhone will not available in our retail stores in Beijing and Shanghai for the time being. Customers can still order iPhone through the Apple Online Store, or buy at China Unicom and other authorized resellers.”

Apple retail staff at the Sanlitun Apple Store in Beijing put signs out Friday afternoon with a note saying, "This store will not be selling the iPhone in the recent future."

Jerry Chan, Digital Marketing & Content Strategy Director

Exactly! Well said BlueFish.

I have a major issue with these kind of bullshit 'piracy loss' figures, for all the reasons you have just listed.

I have a PlayStation 3, and unlike the majority of gamers in China, I buy the real games, because number one I want to support the developers, and number two I want to be able to play online.

But BluRays are different. I don't have the option of being able to buy real BR's anywhere in Beijing. What's most scandalous is that companies like Sony sell their BluRay players officially in this country, even though they know it's next to impossible to find real discs for them. If you ask a member of staff in a Sony store where you can get discs for the players they sell, they will just look at you blankly and shake their heads.

So yeah, give me a choose, and I won't buy pirated things. But without other options, piracy will happen. And as is, these companies have no right nor grounds to complain about piracy. Get off your asses and complain to the WTO about China not allowing easier sales of your goods Hollywood, not about customers who would buy your stuff if they had a chance!

A very smart man wrote:
Remember, the courage to be wrong is paramount in importance to the ability to be right.

Not to bring down the collective sarcasm of holier-than-thou's, but where's the proof? For one thing, these stats seem to assume that if people in China couldn't buy pirated goods, they would go buy real ones. That's not at all true. The majority couldn't possibly afford the real ones. Then, the stats themselves are questionable. Let's just take this one:

"$250 million: how much the six major Hollywood lose in sales per year."

Maybe I don't know anything about it, but isn't the cost of piracy that people pay pirates for fake goods instead of paying the original company for real ones? So explain to me how Hollywood is losing money on movies in China. They don't sell their movies and DVD's in China–both because the government only allows a handful to be shown, and because the few legitimate outlets that sell a bare minimum of legit Hollywood movies charge way more than the average Beijinger is able to afford for a movie. If one goes online in Beijing–to legitimate sites–to try and purchase or rent a movie, those sites tell you that your "region" is not supported. That's not China's government blocking things: that's the movie industry's choice not to allow their movies to be sold and rented to the Chinese.

So if Hollywood doesn't sell their movies here, how are they losing money by Chinese pirates making those movies available? It's not a choice between pirated stuff and real stuff. There's no choice at all.

I'm not saying that there aren't other issues with piracy! There are the physical dangers inherent to everyone involved in that sordid underground business. There are international trade issues and problems with China not keeping it's end of bargains with the international community. There's the issue of Chinese pirates selling their stuff in places where the real thing actually is available. But I'm always confused about how this sob story about the poor Hollywood film makers losing all this money is supposed to be such a strong reason for people in Beijing not to buy pirated DVD's. Explain to the foreign community where they can buy legal copies of Hollywood movies (post 1960's, please) and I'm confident they would mostly respond. But no one is ever going to succeed by insisting that everyone just give up movies and TV entirely, because pirated ones are the only ones available.

(Before you all descend; I use a vpn to connect to trick iTunes and Amazon into thinking I'm in the States, and hence legally rent or buy movies. But not everyone can afford to do that, and not everyone can be expected to be willing to wait 2 days to watch a movie while it downloads at 5kb a second.)

@losknight1964
What you talking about , we are chinese ,and McDs in China ,so he have to follow chinese culture , dont say real or not ,for Mcds the performance is most important,and we like it ,,why you say we rip off ,,,meet customers remand is wrong? you should go back university to restudy marketing i think

Time will heal everything .

@matt10, were you there on a weekday? That might explain the easy-seating. colour me jealous, btw!

RE: bread allure - I think the trick is to ration the ice-cream, i.e. flipping over the top cube and burying the ice-cream in the middle. We ended up with three cubes without ice-cream, and that was alright. What else did you get?

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Susan Sheng
Assistant Dining Editor

Belgium was the place to be in Europe during the 90'.. The city I'm from had more people inside the nightclubs than the city itself... Most french were crossing the border to listen belgian techno and eat the local flavors... Good label back in the days was Bonzai Records.

I wouldn't wait 2 hours to eat at Green Tea but I was in that mall around 2:00pm (missed lunch) and I got seated without a wait. Some of the dishes missed but the majority were pretty damn good. Nice value, which might explain the lines.

That bread allure could really use more than one scoop of ice-cream. It's surprisingly good but after the first few layers you are basically eating buttered toast cubes.

Things seem to have been changing at The Box. I used to think they had the best wings of any I have had in China, but I went recently and they seemed smaller than ever before with a mild sweetness reminiscent of ketchup. I was disappointed. I wonder what happened to that awesome buffalo flavor they used to have. They also lost the keg, so there's no more inexpensive draft beer. I miss how The Box used to be with the spicy wings and frosty Tsingtao marketed above.

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