2011 Sep 14 Where Have All The Taxis Gone?

According to a report from the Bureau of Transportation of Beijing, there are 67,000 registered taxis in Beijing and over 200,000 registered taxi drivers. There is no shortage of people to drive the 67,000 cabs … so where are they all?
Anecdotal evidence of taxi-related frustrations is on the rise; it seems like everybody in the office has a story about their recent struggles to hail a cab. If you are lucky enough to spot one these days, then you’ll need lotto-winning luck to get anything other than the world’s most dismissive hand wave from its driver. And this is when it’s not bad weather (and all Beijingers know that bad weather can mean as little as a couple of raindrops or being slightly breezier than normal). Or at changeover time (which seems to be about every ten minutes these days). Or at dinner time (the taxi man has to eat too).
The average working time of a Beijing taxi driver is 14 hours per day and 427 hours per month – that’s 168 hours more than legitimate working hours, and their typical wage is less than the Beijing average. We understand that cabbies don’t have the easiest job, and that there will be mitigating circumstances at certain times, but what is going on with Beijing taxis? Where have all the cab drivers gone? Is it us that’s going mad?
We’ve checked the local media and there’s been no mention of a decrease in taxi numbers. The Global Times published a story on the difficulties of getting a legal taxi outside Beijing’s railway stations but that’s nothing new. We’d expect to wait for a cab at the airport or train station or outside the NCPA after a night at the opera, but why has the supply of taxis dried up in other parts of town? Without any official comment, and nothing else to go on, all we can offer is speculation and our own observations. We’re not saying that these are causes or knock-on effects, merely things we’re noticed.
• Increase in rickshaws (especially in Sanlitun)
• Drink-driving stops at major intersections
• Unwillingness of drivers to take fares (or use the metre)
• Huge spike in fake/illegal taxi drivers
Have you noticed this phenomenon too? What do you think is going on? What are the alternatives to waiting for a cab (when there's no subway or you've no bike)?
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lucreziab
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I had an idiot play the fast meter trick. I was going from near the exhibition center to near Jin Bao Jie. At first it wasn't too fast then when we got close to Chaoyangmen it was well over 30. Is he joking? It should be around 21 including the gas tax. So I got angry at him and took a picture of his license on the dashboard. I paid 20 after that which was fair. What an idiot, I told him I've been in Beijing for many years and even gave him directions in Chinese. He tried to cheat the wrong person.
It has been more difficult to get a taxi. I had a hard time Saturday late afternoon.
Leon Walsky
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I actually have noticed this lately. I live near Chaoyangmen and used to be able to walk out of my complex and be in a cab within two minutes. Now, it seems to take at least ten. And, as you say, the amount of cabs passing me is ridiculous. And I see the same cabs passing Chinese people too, so it's not that.
I think a big part of it could be the new restrictions on car ownership. Cabs are in higher demand.
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admin
Re: Where Have All The Taxis Gone?
this is definitely happening. There are cabs driving around all overt the place these days not picking up fares. I'm lucky if the 3rd or 4th empty cab stops for me.
It is not an illusion ... what the hell is up?
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bluefish
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Absolutely. Last Friday we had to cancel our trip after missing the train. We couldn't get a taxi. Granted, an emergency with a friend put us out on the street looking for one about 20 minutes later than we'd planned, but we still waited 35 minutes before we got one. By then it was way too late to make it to the station. Later that day, around 2, we needed to help a friend go apartment hunting. Same thing. We spent an hour walking and waiting. Never got one, so we gave up and walked home. We did see a few people all around us getting them, though. Now that they aren't stopping unless they feel like it, you have to be super aggressive and totally uncaring of anyone else's feelings or needs in order to get the one that passes by your general area every half hour or so. And, yes, we were passed up by many of them. In fact, next time a driver gives me that dismissive wave, I'm going to punch a hole in the door as he goes by.
豆子曰
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I heard that one thing going on is that they simply can't make a living, because Beijing refuses to raise their rates - they fear that doing so will cause a wide-spread panic about inflation.
Also, maybe they are all stuck in traffic. I spend 45 minutes in a cab from Sanlitun to Wanda the other day, at 2pm on a Wednesday.
vmomo
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I had a taxi driver tell me outright that drivers weren't picking up laowais because they don't know where they want to go - or how to say it. Whatever - with this and the traffic and the overcrowded subway I only cycle now.
barbarous_chaoyang
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This is definitely happening. I tend to cycle everywhere these days as getting a taxi can be such a nightmare. I did have to get one the other day to take some stuff home and the taxi driver told me that drivers that work for companies are not happy with the wages and working conditions. The guy said he had his own license and so was his own boss, something that is pretty rare in Beijing. He also said that many taxi drivers were unwilling to pick up foreigners as there was extra trouble involved. He didn't really elaborate what he meant and seeing as he'd picked up a foreigner he obviously wasn't talking about himself.
I noticed this guy waiting for a cab the other day. He was a foreigner and this taxi just went straight past him and picked up a Chinese person about 10m in front of him. He wasn't standing in a restricted stopping area so there was no reason the taxi driver shouldn't pick him up.
I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for a taxi fare if it meant a better service and reasonable living conditions for the drivers. I would be worried though that their bosses would just cream off all the extra income generated.
standards
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I'm glad others have noticed this. I thought I was going mad. A five-minute wait outside my home in Shuangjing has recently transformed into at least a 20-minute one. And yes, the number of cabs driving straight past and waving at me (in the most annoying and effeminate way) has spiked considerably.
"Dis is China, you know? You don't like, you go home!"
lucreziab
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My weekend will be a nightmare then as few of the places I need to go are near the subway.
dragoncake79
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what is the fast meter trick?
I'm still fairly new to Beijing. Thanks
lucreziab
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The meter at first appears to be normal and then it gets faster and faster. The guy knew I caught him, but I know the drivers are unhappy so I paid him twenty which was fair.
admin
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i believe that but i can't figure out how driving around not picking up passengers helps them earn a better living
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mr. modern
Re: Where Have All The Taxis Gone?
A lot of drivers try to avoid the rush hour especially around populated areas like Sanlitun and Shuangjing as they are worried about the likely RMB10 fares that they'll pick up, they are looking for people with luggage that are likely making a longer trip.
The stats re drivers/# of cars and hours a driver works are kind of skewed. Very few drivers are the sole driver of a cab, usually there are 2 or more (for the newest ones, up to 3-4) and they work in daily shifts or every other day.
I've heard the city government has stepped in and has talked with the companies about these problems two weeks ago or so, we'll see if it makes a difference.
mrbeijingles
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I don't think it's just a foreigner thing, because I've heard plenty of locals complain about the same thing.
Since finding a taxi is nearly impossible nowadays, I take the subway and ride my bike to wherever I'm going. The most annoying thing is when it's after 11:30pm, the subway is closed and it's raining. You might as well walk home.
Even if you do find a taxi, the frustration doesn't stop there. The attitude of the current group of taxi drivers has changed a lot. They (especially at night) now ask you where you are going first before letting you enter the cab. I have been flat-out refused a ride because the fare wasn't going to be that high.
Just to pile on the anecdotal evidence, I had a local friend who was at the airport say a taxi driver driver went ballistic, pulled over and wanted to throw him out of the cab when he found out that he was only going to Wangjing. They got into a heated argument before my friend relented and offered to pay 10rmb more than the meter said. Unfortunately, my friend didn't have the sense to write down the driver's info. In those situations, I think you have to take a picture of the taxi driver's license and report them.
I am so tired of waiting for endless minutes waiting for a taxi. I would love for something to be done or at least an explanation given, because it's mind-boggling.
lroark
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I also ride my bike, especially since having a toddler in tow is a double whammy when it comes to finding a taxi.
Every day on my way home (about 5pm) I pass by a group of 5 to 6 taxis down by the river at tong hui he playing cards. That has been the same for the last 18 months I have been taking that route. Perhaps the theory of not wanting to drive through rush hour holds some water but the logic of playing cards instead doesn't make much sense to me.
I am just thankful for the illegal taxi drivers that hang out around my complex. I'd rather not leave the house these days if I have to deal with the stress of finding a taxi. Sad because I have been in Beijing long enough to remember the beat up red Xia Li's that used to cost 1.2 kuai. Those guys were my first "Beijing Hua" teachers!
Niu Bi
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Since buying a bike a few years ago I have rarely been in taxis. Having to rely on taxis, even back then, really brought down quality of life here. The times I do have to take a cab I dread. Sitting in traffic while those on bikes and even walking pass me by is very frustrating.
chinpokomaster05
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It's not about laowai vs Chinese. There is definitely a shortage of cabs compared to 2-3 years ago. I think since the Olympic hype has died down there are less cabs. There is some relation to the number of rickshaws too. Anyone here in 2007-2008 didn't see those rickshaws in Sanlitun. There were plenty of cabs. Now the rickshaws are back, causing traffic jams in Sanlitun and annoying everyone.
Another sign that things are changing is that a black cab driver approached me at the airport yesterday. I haven't had that happen since 2006. WTH is going on!?
It's officially impossible to get a cab in Sanlitun around 9-midnight. I just won't go there unless I'm going to stay out very late. I don't get passed up by cab drivers (in general) but just finding an empty cab is the problem.
And I understand passing on foreigners. No cab driver here wants to take someone who doesn't know where he/she is going and whips out a piece of paper with an address written in pinyin. I completely understand rejecting that person. However, if the address is written in Chinese, that's another story. I know rejecting passengers is illegal here but a cab driver once told me he wants to learn English just to explain the 燃油费 to laowai because they don't know the law and think he is trying to cheat them. If you're laowai and hate the crap treatment you get, blame all the laowai here that speak crap Chinese or no Chinese at all. They are ruining it for everyone else.
Leon Walsky
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Muggers are unhappy too, do you just give them money!?
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A Food Affaire Deli
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I think this year is even worse than before. With more waiting time people are just getting clever about how they use cab drivers. Most chinese and several foreigners that i know use cabs in the morning simply arrange with a cab driver to pick them up everyday at a scheduled time. Most even pay more for this service as you dont have to wait or worry about finding a cab even in the cold and rain. I suggest everyone on this list do the same.
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Herbz
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Yeah, I'm on a bike more often... today was the start of cold season madness for me with all kinds of meetings and people needing event gear. There's no way I'd have gotten around to them all in a car and definitely not on the Metro due to the extra walking involved. Really strange hammering past hundreds of cars that are stuck in a jam....
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JingBo
Re: Where Have All The Taxis Gone?
I'd say it's even worse than depicted here. You can never just assume you'll be able to find a taxi anymore. Drivers (who are on duty and with empty cars) just pass you by about 60% of the time. Those rickshaws are a nuisance but necessary due to the lack of taxis.
Maybe the solution is to raise fares and require that drivers not refuse to take you because they don't like your destination. Isn't that supposed to be a rule anyway?
Nidaye
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Yes, you can report drivers that refuse to take you to your destination (as long as it is within their licensed area of operation). More people should report them, it might make the drivers think twice.
Nidaye
Re: Where Have All The Taxis Gone?
It's quite simple, taxi fares have not kept up with the inflation here. And the ever worsening traffic isn't helping either - taxi drivers are a lot pickier about where they go because they don't want to waste time stuck in traffic.
lucreziab
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I'm going to be riding more now. I rode over to Dongzhimen today, it was so much faster. Tomorrow I will ride again.
Yesterday I had really nice drivers that were so happy I could give them directions. No hassle at all.
mrbeijingles
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Unfortunately, it has come to that. It makes sense given the lack of taxis, however it shouldn't have to be this way. It's disappointing to have to arrange for taxi pickup service because there's no taxis around in an "international" city like Beijing. Is Beijing becoming a second-tier city?
Also, in reference to the additional gas fee. It would make more sense to have the fee automatically included on the price displayed on the meter rather than adding it on at the end of the ride. I'll admit, the first time I was in Beijing, I didn't know about the rule and I thought I was being cheated. After the driver hits the 3rd km, the price on the meter should change from 10 to 13 in order to include the gas fee. That might alleviate some of this confusion.
admin
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a. I rarely have a cab driver turn me down when I tell him where I'm going -- what i'm experiencing is a flurry of drivers that don't even stop to ask.
b. funny, i always get the impression they'd rather be in traffic. Rare is it that I don't have my cab driver head for the most impossibly congested route possible.
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alfie-s
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Without a doubt. Its harder to get a taxi. Also, they can be difficult when they take you out of your way, all for an extra 5 or 10 kwai. I suppose we should realise how cheap they are as Ive just come back from London and the only way you could afford a cab is if youve been rioting.
alfred
-heather-
Re: Where Have All The Taxis Gone?
The other day I was waiting for a cab with a few (foreign) friends near our homes in Haidian, and although about twenty taxis drove by, none of them would pick us up. We did see them picking up Chinese passengers, though. One guy even stopped and pretended his car was broken when he realized we were foreign, and proceeded to drive a few feet up and pick up a Chinese woman. He did a U-turn on the way and gave us a thumbs-up.
One of the friends I was with shouted the guy's cabby number at him so he knew he'd be in sh*t later. If that's not effective, I might be tempted to take pictures/videos of them treating passengers differently based upon appearance.
dwizzard86
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Like many other posters, I too thought I was going crazy, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I normally bike everywhere, but I've been forced into a shitty mix of taking cabs/subway/rickshaws for the last month due to a leg injury. Back on the bike now, but definitely noticed the drop-off in service.
Some Solutions:
-Give drivers easier access to owning their own cab licenses and more incentive or commission-based pay. Obviously they don't give two shits about passing people up because whatever half-ass base salary they get paid is good enough to warrant ignoring customers.
-Have the cab companies/local government enforce the regulations that are most likely already in place. I can't imagine that there are no rules about picking up passengers or running the meter.
- For other foreigners: Learn some basic Chinese: 我想去(place) is a good start. Find the Chinese characters online and if you can't write them, do your best to scribble them yourself on a paper or card, or have a Chinese colleague text them to you.
-Invest in a good bike, helmet, and several locks so your ride doesn't get stolen, go around the traffic. You can explore more of Beijing as well, and it makes living here more fun.
bluefish
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In response to dwizzard86, I have to say that several of those suggestions are good. The last two are problematic, though. First, even if all the foreigners learn basic Chinese, that isn't going to help with the tourists. Second, I think most people who actually live here do at least know enough to get characters written down or texted to them. I don't know any foreigners personally who can't speak Chinese or who can't at least print out an address in characters. More of a problem is drivers who can't read (there are a lot of them) and new drivers who haven't got the foggiest idea where anything is. There are a lot of them, too. The majority of taxi drivers I talk to these days say they've only been working 2 months or less.
As for the bike, good idea though it is, the horrific pollution has to be taken into account. My flatmate used to bike to work every day. She'd get a cold some time in the fall. She didn't stop coughing and hacking and feeling poorly till spring. Once I told her she was forbidden to ride her bike...Magic! No more breathing problems, and gets over colds in a timely, normal fashion. I use to walk every day for exercise. It used to feel good. Then I noticed that my walks made me feel worse, not better. No energy, totally exhausted afterward, etc. Once I bought some serious air filters and started using the elliptical in my house instead...Magic! Total 100% improvement. If you're able to ride every day, good for you. Not everyone's bodily response to deeply breathing in pollution is so positive.
So, here's an idea. What we need is an organizing entity like thebeijinger to print up and sell some little red flags or hats with a RMB symbol on them. Then we spread through the taxi pop that anyone with one of these is saying "I tip for good service." Problem solved.